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Social welfare want spouses and childrens pps??/

  • 06-04-2015 12:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭


    My friend lost her job and she told me she has applied for jobseekers allowance. They asked for her spouses pps and her childrens pps?

    Why do they need this information?

    Its her first time dealing with social welfare and I have never had dealings with them.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Karen91 wrote: »
    My friend lost her job and she told me she has applied for jobseekers allowance. They asked for her spouses pps and her childrens pps?

    Why do they need this information?

    Its her first time dealing with social welfare and I have never had dealings with them.

    It will help them give her the correct payment. If she is claiming for them, they will want to make sure they are not included in someone elses claim, eg her partner getting a payment in his own right or children being paid for on fathers claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Karen91


    It will help them give her the correct payment. If she is claiming for them, they will want to make sure they are not included in someone elses claim, eg her partner getting a payment in his own right or children being paid for on fathers claim.

    Ok thank you. Her partner is very private, and there is a person they know working at thelocal social welfare office.

    Can they access personal information like what he earned when he was employed for example?

    Just out of curiosity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    Karen91 wrote: »
    Ok thank you. Her partner is very private, and there is a person they know working at thelocal social welfare office.

    Can they access personal information like what he earned when he was employed for example?

    Just out of curiosity


    That is the exact reason they want her partner's PPS number. Are they cohabiting? Her payment will be means tested if this is the case as they assume the partner will support her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Karen91


    PLL wrote: »
    That is the exact reason they want her partner's PPS number. Are they cohabiting? Her payment will be means tested if this is the case as they assume the partner will support her.


    He is no longer working, he has not been unemployed long enough to qualify for jobseekers apparently. Yes they live together but he is not earning at present.

    They are just curious what they can access through his pps when he is no the direct claimant


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Karen91 wrote: »
    He is no longer working, he has not been unemployed long enough to qualify for jobseekers apparently. Yes they live together but he is not earning at present.

    They are just curious what they can access through his pps when he is no the direct claimant

    You are able to claim JS on the first day you are unemployed.The data protection act protects private info from prying eyes.However if the partener is unemployed and has not claimed that may well raise some concerns in the local office to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Karen91


    mp22 wrote: »
    You are able to claim JS on the first day you are unemployed.The data protection act protects private info from prying eyes.However if the partener is unemployed and has not claimed that may well raise some concerns in the local office to be honest.


    He was told he had to be unemployed 3 months or more before he was entitled to jobseekers allowance. He is not unemployed that long which is why he did not put in a claim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭triple nipple


    maybe because he quit his job


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Karen91 wrote: »
    He was told he had to be unemployed 3 months or more before he was entitled to jobseekers allowance. He is not unemployed that long which is why he did not put in a claim

    Who told him that? How long was he working? As MP22 said, if he hadn't signed on from the first day on being unemployed, whether he was entitled to any money or not, the DSP might want to know why. There may be reasons of redundancy, or him leaving a job himself, but he should have been signing all along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭beyondbelief67


    Karen91 wrote: »
    He was told he had to be unemployed 3 months or more before he was entitled to jobseekers allowance. He is not unemployed that long which is why he did not put in a claim
    As far as I know the only reason someone doesn't get jobseekers for 3 months is if they finish their job for no reason or get the sack for something they have done ie basically self dismissal as the dole look at it as not trying to keep yourself in a job so refuse payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Karen91


    Who told him that? How long was he working? As MP22 said, if he hadn't signed on from the first day on being unemployed, whether he was entitled to any money or not, the DSP might want to know why. There may be reasons of redundancy, or him leaving a job himself, but he should have been signing all along.

    A woman working at the social welfare office told him. He was working for a small business which closed down. He was working for them a year and a bit as far as I know.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Karen91 wrote: »
    A woman working at the social welfare office told him. He was working for a small business which closed down. He was working for them a year and a bit as far as I know.

    Assuming she gave him this information when he went in to start his claim, Either she gave him wrong info, or he misunderstood. He needs to go back again and get it sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭MouseTail


    Perhaps he did not have sufficient stamps for JSB, and his partner was working and earning above the threshold? I don't understand the 3 month wait though. Perhaps he refused to give them PPSNs, without them a claim cannot be processed.


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