leaking shower

2time

Got a mira shower unit, have it in 2 years but when you switch it off its still flows water out through the shower head and does not stop for 3-4 hours.
ANYONE ABLE TO HELP

THANKS

Sleeper12

you need to get the solenoid replaced. Usually around 125 Euro supplied and fitted.

2time

now leaking hot water, at €125 that expensive is it not

Sleeper12

2time wrote: »

now leaking hot water, at €125 that expensive is it not

What model mira is it? Electric shower/ Power shower? dial on the wall?

The solenoid costs around €55. Labour should be around €60 plus vat. That's around €125 supplied & fitted.

If you turn the temperature dial to cold & that should stop you wasting hot water.

Dozer Dave

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The solenoid costs around €55.

That is very expensive for a solenoid, I can buy 4 on the trade for that.

Sleeper12

Dozer Dave wrote: »

That is very expensive for a solenoid, I can buy 4 on the trade for that.

Dave you can't buy 4 solenoids for €55.... You might be able to buy 4 solenoid coils but op needs solenoid valves. His valve isn't shutting off so its not the coil.
A triton solenoid costs between €25 & €35 depending on the model.
Mira charge over €50 for these. The solenoid coil for mira electric showers are called flow control valves
OP still hasn't said what model mira shower he has. If its a dial on the wall he could be looking at over €100 for a new cartridge

Dozer Dave

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Dave you can't buy 4 solenoids for €55.... You might be able to buy 4 solenoid coils but op needs solenoid valves. His valve isn't shutting off so its not the coil.

You said in post 2 it was the solenoid but now its the valve not the coil, you are all over the place.

Sleeper12

Dozer Dave wrote: »

You said in post 2 it was the solenoid but now its the valve not the coil, you are all over the place.

If you knew what you were talking about then you'd know that if the water won't stop running in an electric shower it's always the valve. No water and it's the coil. It doesn't help having people commenting on posts like this not knowing what they are talking about. It only confuses the person looking for help.

In Mira electric showers the flow valve, on off switch,solenoid valve and coil are all part of the flow control valve. This flow control valve costs just over 55 Euro. To replace this part the pump and heating can need to be removed. You literally have to take the whole shower apart.

Dozer Dave

Sleeper12 wrote: »

If you knew what you were talking about then you'd know that if the water won't stop running in an electric shower it's always the valve. No water and it's the coil. It doesn't help having people commenting on posts like this not knowing what they are talking about. It only confuses the person looking for help.

Stick by your posts now, you said in post 2 that the op needs a solenoid. Its would seem you are the one who does not know what they are talking about and overcharging for parts.

In Mira electric showers the flow valve, on off switch,solenoid valve and coil are all part of the flow control valve. This flow control valve costs just over 55 Euro. To replace this part the pump and heating can need to be removed. You literally have to take the whole shower apart.

This is not a solenoid, why didn't you say the op needs a flow control valve instead of saying a solenoid which isn't very helpful?

Sleeper12

Dozer Dave wrote: »

Stick by your posts now, you said in post 2 that the op needs a solenoid. Its would seem you are the one who does not know what they are talking about and overcharging for parts.



This is not a solenoid, why didn't you say the op needs a flow control valve instead of saying a solenoid which isn't very helpful?

Look Dave I'm not going to get into it with you but I'll explain it to you one last time.

A solenoid is both the coil and valve together. This is the solenoid. Separately they are not called a solenoid. You need both parts for it to be a solenoid.

If you only want a solenoid coil then you ask for a coil. If you only want a solenoid valve then you ask for a valve. A solenoid is always both part together..

I'm still waiting on op to post make and model. If it is a Mira power shower then it is a solenoid they need and not a flow control valve. This costs around 50 Euro. If it is a dial on the wall then it's a cartridge they need. This starts at around 100 Euro just for the part and can cost as much as 300 Euro depending on the model. Mira know how to charge for their parts.

Dozer Dave

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Look Dave I'm not going to get into it with you but I'll explain it to you one last time.

A solenoid is both the coil and valve together. This is the solenoid. Separately they are not called a solenoid. You need both parts for it to be a solenoid.

If you only want a solenoid coil then you ask for a coil. If you only want a solenoid valve then you ask for a valve. A solenoid is always both part together..

Sleeper if you are ordering parts you have to call them by their appropriate name or else part number. If you are on the phone ordering a solenoid the sales agent will not know what you are on about. Since you are being pedantic the proper name for your called solenoid is called the flow valve assembly.
If you want a coil you ask for a solenoid coil. I am ordering parts everyday of the week and ringing up with improper names on parts like what you are doing would be a nightmare to deal with. I would suggest you should use part numbers if you do not know the correct name for the parts which is clearly evident here.

Sleeper12

Dozer Dave wrote: »

Sleeper if you are ordering parts you have to call them by their appropriate name or else part number. If you are on the phone ordering a solenoid the sales agent will not know what you are on about. Since you are being pedantic the proper name for your called solenoid is called the flow valve assembly.
If you want a coil you ask for a solenoid coil. I am ordering parts everyday of the week and ringing up with improper names on parts like what you are doing would be a nightmare to deal with. I would suggest you should use part numbers if you do not know the correct name for the parts which is clearly evident here.

A solenoid is the coil & valve together. They are sold together. None of the manufacturers sell solenoid valves without the coil. When a solenoid fails a shower repair company won't change just the coil or just the valve. They will always change both. Having trained in the Triton factory & the Aqualisa factory & doing refresher courses with both every 2 years I can assure you that the manufacturers all say the correct way is to replace the whole solenoid & not just half of it.

I was forgetting to add that I own Dublins biggest independent shower repair company and we also have a parts store. As you can imagine we do a lot of ordering & we have to deal with people using the wrong names. The biggest culprits are electricians. & the one they get wrong the most is the Tco. They call it the fuse, stat, thermostat to name just a few. But the name is printed on the back of every one made. Go figure.

2time

hi, its a mira vigour ,,,thermostatic

damn thing only 15 months old

Sleeper12

2time wrote: »

hi, its a mira vigour ,,,thermostatic

damn thing only 15 months old

This is where you see how bad mira are at power showers. They only give a 12 months warranty. On a vigour or even an event.
Anyways it is a mira vigour solenoid you need it'll set you back around €50. Or €125 if you get a proper shower repair company to supply & fit it.

Dozer Dave

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Having trained in the Triton factory & the Aqualisa factory & doing refresher courses with both every 2 years I can assure you that the manufacturers all say the correct way is to replace the whole solenoid & not just half of it.

I was forgetting to add that I own Dublins biggest independent shower repair company and we also have a parts store. As you can imagine we do a lot of ordering & we have to deal with people using the wrong names.

Sleeper12

Dozer Dave wrote: »

At least you got the name "horse" right.
:-)

2time

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This is where you see how bad mira are at power showers. They only give a 12 months warranty. On a vigour or even an event.
Anyways it is a mira vigour solenoid you need it'll set you back around €50. Or €125 if you get a proper shower repair company to supply & fit it.

thanks so its the solenoid then, are they difficult to fit, DIY ?

I also notice the the dial or knob on this shower has become very hard to turn (very tight) not impressed with this shower at all

Sleeper12

2time wrote: »

thanks so its the solenoid then, are they difficult to fit, DIY ?

I also notice the the dial or knob on this shower has become very hard to turn (very tight) not impressed with this shower at all

Mira have had a great name for the dial showers they've been making for close to 40 years. Because of that a lot of people think all Mira showers are great. The plastic in Mira electric & power showers is cheap & becomes very brittle over time. It also turns yellow. When the shower breaks you then find out that they charge nearly twice the price for their spares than the other manufactures. You'll pay €50 for the mira solenoid where the Triton solenoid for their power shower is €30. As you found out they only give a 1 years warranty with their power showers. In short they are c**p. Triton are the kings of electric showers. They last longer & the parts are much cheaper.

Back to your question. It is one of the easiest parts to replace on the Vigour. Hardest part will most likely be trying to shut off the water. You'll need a torx screwdriver. A T15 I think.