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Electric gates for house entrance

  • 29-03-2015 3:57pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi all. Thinking of getting electric gates for the house entrance. Anyone have them installed? Pros and cons?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Hi all. Thinking of getting electric gates for the house entrance. Anyone have them installed? Pros and cons?

    Cons - from a previous thread on this here, it seems other people can open your gates depending on controller. Also turn ya into a lazy bastard and your kids will end up obese.

    Pro's lads won't be calling around looking for the bossman to sell gates to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    AP2014 wrote: »
    Cons - from a previous thread on this here, it seems other people can open your gates depending on controller. Also turn ya into a lazy bastard and your kids will end up obese.

    Pro's lads won't be calling around looking for the bossman to sell gates to.

    We will be the only house with the gates for miles.....gonna be the posh neighbours so we are :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    Reggie. wrote: »
    We will be the only house with the gates for miles.....gonna be the posh neighbours so we are :D


    You'll wake up some morning in October and they will be gone....you'll find them at the October fair in Ballinasloe. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    I have installed them for the last 8 years. only recently stopped doing this as it was eating into family time. To be entirely honest with you Reggie there is not a great amount in installing them you could install them yourself. I only ever worked with 1 system that was DEA as i found them to be the best for quality and power and also have a good tech back up. If you do decide to get someone to install it make sure they are relativly local use a good system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I have installed them for the last 8 years. only recently stopped doing this as it was eating into family time. To be entirely honest with you Reggie there is not a great amount in installing them you could install them yourself. I only ever worked with 1 system that was DEA as i found them to be the best for quality and power and also have a good tech back up. If you do decide to get someone to install it make sure they are relativly local use a good system.

    Cheers for that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Cons...power cuts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    ganmo wrote: »
    Cons...power cuts

    There must be a back up on them somehow if there is no power?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭merryberry


    Reggie. wrote: »
    There must be a back up on them somehow if there is no power?

    surely there is a motor detachment point in the event of that happening which allows u to open them manually?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    merryberry wrote: »
    surely there is a motor detachment point in the event of that happening which allows u to open them manually?

    That's what I'm thinking. Maybe someone here knows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Not by the look of the ones on this road, some open when the power goes some don't. Often would see neighbours cars parked on the road in power cuts


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    ganmo wrote: »
    Cons...power cuts

    There is always without exception a manual override on the gates regardless of the make or model!!!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    I call them 'Flock off' gates. They serve their intended purpose but they mitigate against someone just casually dropping in when passing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    There is always without exception a manual override on the gates regardless of the make or model!!!
    There is a key to open them when the power goes , as above dea are brilliant lots of different spec , the gates are a great job ur house is always closed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Great job at keeping out the nuisance callers. We give code to frequent close relatives so no problems that way. Only problem I have is key fob is hit and miss some times. Much safer for the kids too cos they'll be closed all the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭mayota


    greysides wrote: »
    I call them 'Flock off' gates. They serve their intended purpose but they mitigate against someone just casually dropping in when passing.

    Not many people do this nowadays, unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Have them here for the last 10 yrs done the work myself Nothing to it.

    Pm if you want details and drawings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    dzer2 wrote: »
    Have them here for the last 10 yrs done the work myself Nothing to it.

    Pm if you want details and drawings

    PM sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭joejobrien


    Have them installed at the mothers house but it the one with ram attached to the gate say 1/3 up from ground as this avoids ground water getting access to underground boxs. One neighbour here had the proplem, as council raised height of road all surface water flowed in , flooding boxes. Not happy , changed for ram type. no problem since


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    Put them up..the peace of mind when away from the place is priceless! Friends calling on spec? Everyone has a phone and very quickly get into the habit of a call or txt before dropping by or will call or use the intercom when at the gates.
    Deliveries when the gates are closed? Have a sim opening system so you can open with your phone when delivery is at the gates.
    Only con is as has been said power cuts but we have never been overly inconvienced.. Key system will open gates (with difficulty) in an emergency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭kub


    Hi Op, if you have any technical quires etc, check out the home security forum over in Rec. I just came across this thread on the home page.
    We install security systems including gates. I noticed one of your quires related to gates not opening in the event of a power cut.
    Well most decent manufacturers these days have 24 volt motors etc which allow for battery back up so in the event of a power cut the gates operate as normal.

    In my own experience people do not maintain their gates and as other posters have mentioned above there is manual over rides whereby a key like device is used to release the gates from the automation process. It is vital that the related moving parts of these locking devices are lubricated regularly as they will seize up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Zoo4m8 wrote: »
    Put them up..the peace of mind when away from the place is priceless! Friends calling on spec? Everyone has a phone and very quickly get into the habit of a call or txt before dropping by or will call or use the intercom when at the gates.
    Deliveries when the gates are closed? Have a sim opening system so you can open with your phone when delivery is at the gates.
    Only con is as has been said power cuts but we have never been overly inconvienced.. Key system will open gates (with difficulty) in an emergency.

    Deliveries wouldn't be an issue really as the in laws are only down the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    Have them installed the last 6 years, went for 12v solar with a GSM controller. No need to worry about power cuts, losing key fobs, changing codes. Have the panels wired through a spare tractor battery, which I will have to charge about once a month during the winter if it's very cloudy, but it will be fine from April to October.

    A visitor can contact me anywhere with the GSM controller, and not just when I'm in the house, which is unlikely. If I'm out on the farm I can tell them where to find me.

    I bought the kit in the North and fitted it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭newholland mad


    when you have them up for a few years you will wonder how any house could be without them great security. Have a key to open manually for a power cut. get a single sliding gate rather than 2 swinging gates much stronger trouble free, have ours 6 yrs and only 1 minor fault


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭vinnie13


    they are great keepin the unwanted out.have them 15yrs,ram type 12v back up(tiny battery lasts ages)gsm and loop detector.
    they are pretty easy to install with basic diy skills.
    review all makes some are selling cheap chinese stuff that wont last 6months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭Evolution1


    + one for the battery back up.. I don't have this and I wish i did.
    Regarding the underground systems you need proper drainage. I have pipe running to gravel pits and give the boxes a clean once a year when greasing.
    I've Ditec motors as that's what the neighbours have the past 9 years and their gates are abused . FAAC are very good too.
    Rolling code remotes would be the most secure. Be carefull if installing yourself when setting the force as they are strong enough to crush. Always go for at least two safety detectors and if the gate opens up parallel to a wall you'd want a safety rib or amother set of photo beams to prevent them pinning anyone to the wall or crushing the family pet. Installers have all the gear to ensure a crush free setup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Depending on the setup a second beam could be very important if your in and out through them with a trailer regularly as the beam can miss the drawbar if it's set at the wrong height on the pillars and start to close on the trailer while your waiting to get out on the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    joejobrien wrote: »
    Have them installed at the mothers house but it the one with ram attached to the gate say 1/3 up from ground as this avoids ground water getting access to underground boxs. One neighbour here had the proplem, as council raised height of road all surface water flowed in , flooding boxes. Not happy , changed for ram type. no problem since

    I heard where there was a house cleaned out 2 years ago, they entered via the front electric security gates.
    The visitors reached through the bars of the gate and opened the bolts of the ram with a spanner then pushed the gates open. Just make sure you can get a spot of weld on, or use a security nut which wrings off when it gets tightened to a certain amount. any lock shop will point you in the right direction for these bolts.

    (I put on bolts onto the shed door lock with an air gun and nobodys gonna get them suckers off!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    also, if your having a sliding gate, and have twin opening gates already, consider welding/bolting the two gates together where they meet. makes for one slider, instead of two.


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