Ok, so have you ever had an euggghh moment? **Mod note. Post 1**

connected1

I know we're not allowed comment on the currently trending guilty verdict today....But I'm wondering...have you ever been in the company of somebody who on the surface looked perfectly ok, but you just got the jitters talking to them. Like your antennae just picked up something and you felt really uncomfortable in their presence? It has happened to me a good few times. I'm always left wondering, is it me or is it them? And much of the commentary I've had with friends around Graham O' Dwyer is how he looked like a regular decent guy. I'm not looking to discuss him - I'm wondering if you've ever hear an euggghhh moment on meeting someone. ...and if your instinct's been proved right in the long run?

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Mint Aero

So are we discussing him or not?

connected1

Mint Aero wrote: »

So are we discussing him or not?

No, he just served as an inspiration for my question. Any similarity is non intended

tomwaterford

connected1 wrote: »

No, he just served as an inspiration for my question. Any similarity is non intended

I once had reason to be in the company of someone who was supposedly implicated in 70 or so killings during the troubles and felt nothing


But was also around an upstanding And popular member of the community who I just couldn't warm to....and recently it's coming out that he used beat his wife and abuse the children.....why do these never come out when people are alive

strobe

No. So I'm pretty sure I'm the one people get the euggghh feeling about. And you know what? I'm cool with it.

Ted_YNWA

It's always the guys who keep to themselves you have to worry about.

Miall108

connected1 wrote: »

No, he just served as an inspiration for my question. Any similarity is non intended

An inspiration? Poor choice of words there I would say

connected1

Miall108 wrote: »

An inspiration? Poor choice of words there I would say

Yeh very true, maybe I should be creeping myself out :-)

tomwaterford

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

It's always the guys who keep to themselves you have to worry about.

Jesus.....I hope the neighbours don't be bricking themselves around me :pac:

kneemos

Learned from "House"that there is a recognised medical condition that repels us from psychopathic types,it's a type of self preservation.

dhidra

Yes, an old teacher of mine from the late 80s gave me the creeps. What I remembered most about him was that he made me feel uncomfortable but I couldn't really explain why.
A few years ago I read in the paper that he was found guilty of sexually abusing one of his pupils at around the time he taught me.

eviltwin

I once had Joe O'Reilly behind me in the queue in Tesco. It was at the stage where he was under suspicion for murder. His kids were with him and he seemed normal enough but it was creepy all the same. He's also very tall which doesn't help.

connected1

Mmm, I have a theory that people 'leak' clues about their inner lives... I've been uncomfortable around certain people at times but have thought " oh that's just me" but later discovered that others felt the same way.
By the way i thought the mods had deleted this thread because in my first post I named he whom we don't speak of ☺
It wasn't my intention to start a discussion round the case, but to ask if you've had experiences like the ones above. Have you been proved right about someone who made you feel 'uh oh, somethings wrong here'?

King George VI

In my local Mace garage there was this guy that was always there. He didn't work there but he constantly followed customers around pointing out the deals they had going. I instantly got a weird feeling about him and got tthe heeby jeebys when he looked at me.

One day I went into the Mace to buy some hangover food, he was there and kept pointing at the sausages, saying "sausages sausages... you look like a man who loves a fry, get them here at your local meeece". He pronounced mace like meeeece. Anyway my gut feeling of not trusting him was right because that night I seen him on the telly presenting the Saturday Night Show on RTE. Turned out it was Brendan O'Connor.

Weird bastard.

Shandashey

Yes. A lad who was a friend of a friend was out in our company the night after carrying out a serious assault on 2 tourists. He went home early and was arrested in the early hours. Very quiet unassuming lad and we all thought he was grand. He got 10 years.

connected1

Shandashey wrote: »

. He went home early and was arrested in the early hours. Very quiet unassuming lad and we all thought he was grand.

So he didn't raise any red flags for you? Obviously was a serious assault if he got 10 years for it. But I'm wondering more about people who have hidden lives that nobody knows about, until they get caught. But you get a creepy feeling from, even though you don't have any rational reason to feel like that.

Mr_Muffin

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

It's always the guys who keep to themselves you have to worry about.

I don't think this is true.

Shandashey

connected1 wrote: »

So he didn't raise any red flags for you? Obviously was a serious assault if he got 10 years for it. But I'm wondering more about people who have hidden lives that nobody knows about, until they get caught. But you get a creepy feeling from, even though you don't have any rational reason to feel like that.

Not one red flag from any of us, it was so shocking.

Eugene Norman

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

It's always the guys who keep to themselves you have to worry about.

Like shy retiring Jimmy Saville.

bnt

I never have. Which leads me to wonder: could I be one of "them"? :eek:

spud82

I got into a cab on my own one day. It was lashing rain, and I was heading home from work and i thought eff it Ill get a cab instead of getting a bus. Second I got into a the cab the driver freaked me out. He was acting really creepy and asked me odd questions. So i decided to get out of the cab. the doors were locked so I had to ask him to open the locks and let me out, he started shouting at me, but eventually I got out of the cab. I reported it to the guards, and the taxi company. Two weeks later, he was arrested and charged with raping two females students in the university campus.

connected1

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Like shy retiring Jimmy Saville.

Case in point. Never met him, but wouldn't ever have wanted to be on Jim"ll Fix It! And the amount of people who said after the fact "yeah he was creepy" but obviously never trusted their instinct enough to say it out loud when he was alive.

connected1

spud82 wrote: »

I got into a cab on my own one day. It was lashing rain, and I was heading home from work and i thought eff it Ill get a cab instead of getting a bus. Second I got into a the cab the driver freaked me out. He was acting really creepy and asked me odd questions. So i decided to get out of the cab. the doors were locked so I had to ask him to open the locks and let me out, he started shouting at me, but eventually I got out of the cab. I reported it to the guards, and the taxi company. Two weeks later, he was arrested and charged with raping two females students in the university campus.

Well done you. Do you know if anything was done about your report before he offended?

Ted_YNWA

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

I don't think this is true.

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Like shy retiring Jimmy Saville.

I was just stating what the neighbours generally say when someone is arrested for serial murders.

spud82

connected1 wrote: »

Well done you. Do you know if anything was done about your report before he offended?

Yes, he was questioned over it, too. When I complained they were looking for a driver matching his description. When I complained him, the car, and the description matched that of the other girl who had complained him, to the guards. I was freaked out in the taxi, I knew he was dodgy. He had the doors locked FFS. Scary ****.

Eugene Norman

connected1 wrote: »

Case in point. Never met him, but wouldn't ever have wanted to be on Jim"ll Fix It! And the amount of people who said after the fact "yeah he was creepy" but obviously never trusted their instinct enough to say it out loud when he was alive.

Oh people always do that. When I lived in Bristol a retired teacher was falsely implicated in the killing of a young woman over Christmas. This guy looked like a mad prof. All the tabloids were convinced of his guilt (this is called monstering) as were the Twitter stream. He has nothing to do with it but he was "weird" enough to convince people he looked "off".

chris jefferies Is his name.

That said you can get a vibe from some people but you can tell nothing from photos.

eviltwin

Boosroles wrote: »

People with autism and aspergers are known to make people feel like that.

No they are not

Slicemeister

Worked with a fellow who beat to death a hooker and tried to destroy the evidence by setting fire to the apartment with her in it.

Was actually an ok guy, never saw me stuck if I was in a spot of bother. Was hugely racist though.

Slicemeister

Slicemeister wrote: »

Worked with a fellow who beat to death a hooker and tried to destroy the evidence by setting fire to the apartment with her in it.

Was actually an ok guy, never saw me stuck if I was in a spot of bother. Was hugely racist though.

No, he sounds like thoroughly nice chap. He was probably just having a tough day, could happen anyone really.

MadDog76

Johnny Carson wrote: »

In my local Mace garage there was this guy that was always there. He didn't work there but he constantly followed customers around pointing out the deals they had going. I instantly got a weird feeling about him and got tthe heeby jeebys when he looked at me.

One day I went into the Mace to buy some hangover food, he was there and kept pointing at the sausages, saying "sausages sausages... you look like a man who loves a fry, get them here at your local meeece". He pronounced mace like meeeece. Anyway my gut feeling of not trusting him was right because that night I seen him on the telly presenting the Saturday Night Show on RTE. Turned out it was Brendan O'Connor.

Weird bastard.

I know you're joking but I actually did meet him a few times when out clubbing 10 or so years ago ........... he was in the company of Eamon Dunphy a couple of times ........ and I have to say, they both came across as vile creepy weirdos.

kowloon

Slicemeister wrote: »

Worked with a fellow who beat to death a hooker and tried to destroy the evidence by setting fire to the apartment with her in it.

Was actually an ok guy, never saw me stuck if I was in a spot of bother. Was hugely racist though.

It's bugging me that I don't get this reference. :mad:

December2012

kowloon wrote: »

It's bugging me that I don't get this reference. :mad:

American psycho???





Not you - the book / movie.

Ghost Buster

Had a guy on a FAS course assigned to work with me once. The first day he seemed grand. He began the second day by assuring me that should I hear any rumours about his being a paedophile they're not true....eeeek.

foggy_lad

Used to work with a guy who was just a weirdo and anyone that met him knew almost immediately that he was a liar making up stories of his adventures, he was one of those people you just know was turned down by the Gardai, Fire service, Ambulance service etc etc although he has saved dozens if not hundreds of people including at least one whom he performed an emergency tracheotomy on using a bic biro. He also had the winning lotto numbers at least twice but had changed his numbers the week before once and other time his missus forgot to do the lotto.

Witchie

Yes, a creepy guy who used to work in a local supermarket and kiss me as a child and I hated him. I was petrified. Turns out he had abused his daughters.

Also a monk who creeped me out and would always give me money and chocolate but I would always wriggle out of his grasp. He is doing time for abusing girls.

Since have grown up I seem more trusting and less willing to think that someone is euggghh much to my detriment.

LadyAthame

eviltwin wrote: »

No they are not

Here here. They are just people :-)

LadyAthame

foggy_lad wrote: »

Used to work with a guy who was just a weirdo and anyone that met him knew almost immediately that he was a liar making up stories of his adventures, he was one of those people you just know was turned down by the Gardai, Fire service, Ambulance service etc etc although he has saved dozens if not hundreds of people including at least one whom he performed an emergency tracheotomy on using a bic biro. He also had the winning lotto numbers at least twice but had changed his numbers the week before once and other time his missus forgot to do the lotto.

WOW!

paulbok

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Oh people always do that. When I lived in Bristol a retired teacher was falsely implicated in the killing of a young woman over Christmas. This guy looked like a mad prof. All the tabloids were convinced of his guilt (this is called monstering) as were the Twitter stream. He has nothing to do with it but he was "weird" enough to convince people he looked "off".

chris jefferies Is his name.

That said you can get a vibe from some people but you can tell nothing from photos.

So would 'monstering' include you posting the name of an innocent person because he looked weird?

PARlance

Grew up in a shop and worked in it from an early age. We had a guy that used to come in and he creeped me out no end.

Turns out he (rumors) abused his nephews and was he was investigated (not rumored) as part of that big nationwide child porn raid about 15 years ago.

Before all that had came to light, I had refused to serve or talk to him anymore in the shop. Think I was about 12 and I just told my parents I didn't want anything to do with him.

Steve_Carella

PARlance wrote: »

Grew up in a shop and worked in it from an early age. We had a guy that used to

The suspense is killing me...

Akrasia

The guy used to sneak into people's houses and murder them as they were mid way through composing a message on social media and then post the half finished message

PARlance

Steve_Carella wrote: »

The suspense is killing me...

Unintentional

Slicemeister

kowloon wrote: »

It's bugging me that I don't get this reference. :mad:

What reference? It's true, just might coincide with some film unknown to me...

MadDog76

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Oh people always do that. When I lived in Bristol a retired teacher was falsely implicated in the killing of a young woman over Christmas. This guy looked like a mad prof. All the tabloids were convinced of his guilt (this is called monstering) as were the Twitter stream. He has nothing to do with it but he was "weird" enough to convince people he looked "off".

chris jefferies Is his name.

That said you can get a vibe from some people but you can tell nothing from photos.

paulbok wrote: »

So would 'monstering' include you posting the name of an innocent person because he looked weird?

Chris Jefferies is a well-known well-publicised name ......... he himself has done interviews and posed for photographs since vindicated.