Enforcement of traffic law

filbert the fox

Is the bus lane a free for all?

Fairview any morning. Exasperating :mad:

What about lane discipline, brake lights out, no indicating, texting, no seat belt wearing, speeding, non display of up to date tax, insurance, nct.

Is there any enforcement - I mean real enforcement.

It sticks in my craw that there is a cavalier attitude to compliance when the majority of us foot the bill.

Is there a facility to report crime like this and will it be followed up on.

Does anyone really know : Where are the Guards?

cml387

This comes up a lot.
In the next thread you'll see complaints about speed cameras being just an income source, and the gardai would be better employed catching criminals that harassing motorists.

Valetta

filbert the fox wrote: »

Is the bus lane a free for all?

Fairview any morning. Exasperating :mad:

What about lane discipline, brake lights out, no indicating, texting, no seat belt wearing, speeding, non display of up to date tax, insurance, nct.

Is there any enforcement - I mean real enforcement.

It sticks in my craw that there is a cavalier attitude to compliance when the majority of us foot the bill.

Is there a facility to report crime like this and will it be followed up on.

Does anyone really know : Where are the Guards?

Unfortunately the majority of people are not prepared to "foot the bill" for the extra gardai needed.

ironclaw

Valetta wrote: »

Unfortunately the majority of people are not prepared to "foot the bill" for the extra gardai needed.

We live in a world where a lot of tasks could be automated at minimal cost to the tax payer.

Driving without valid tax, insurance and NCT could be easily implemented in a fixed and mobile nature.

In my opinion, there is no incentive to do so, as its easier and more lucrative to clock in overtime and the system, as a whole, has no incentive to be productive or efficient (Like any State run operation)

chicken_little

Saw this on the RSA website (can't post link)

'Offences can be detected by Garda interception or, in the case of speeding offences, by speed cameras'


Does this mean the only offence that can be caught on camera is speeding and everything else must be intercepted by Gardaí? There's definitely not enough Gardaí to see every one of these traffic offences in person..

DubVelo

Nope, no enforcement. No consequences. It's a total free-for-all.
Result; feckin' epidemic of mobile phone use, tailgating and generally feckless or half-pissed driving everywhere.

Oh but 'Safety Cameras' on straight bits of good fast road. :rolleyes:

Boskowski

The tax, nct, insurance thing is just mind blowing. Its so easy to automate. And so easy to go nuclear on.

In Germany we have what you would translate as 'permission to operate'. All three of the above are a precondition to the same, although tax somewhat relaxed. If one of them is missing you don't have it. Also they allow the insurer to bail on the claim if said permission is not there. Well, they pay the third party but they leave the offender with massive bills if found not having this permission to operate. And there'll be no write offs. Some people are literally paying for the rest of their lives for the sh1t they caused. And being caught driving without that 'pto' can mean actual jail time, certainly if repeated.

Also even though there is the nct it does not absolve the driver of their due care regarding their vehicle. If there is a serious enough problem with the car it also revokes the permission to operate. Its the holders AND drivers responsibility to ensure the roadworthiness at all times.

Believe me there is very little messing with those three back home and its not because we are such law abiding folks. Its because you're in deep sh1t if you don't.

Odyssey 2005

Driving home this eve about 5.50. I was behind a squad car in slow moving traffic and two cars passed us going in the opposite direction BOTH on the phone,copper just ignored it:eek:.

The Royal Scam

For fun and to kill my boredom on my commute from Carlow to Celbridge yesterday morning I spotted, all of these were in a moving vehicle :

37 people talking on their phone.
18 people operating their smartphone.
2 women doing their make-up.
1 psycho drinking tea or something from an open mug
4 people eating.
6 people picking their nose
1 person eating it.
5-6 people under the speed limit.... only kidding , but that is what it is like.
0 Garda, 1 Traffic Camera Van (Garda).
I'm a very relaxed driver and don't let anything annoy me , sometimes I cannot believe how lawless the roads have become with practically no Garda around.

Infracted

The Royal Scam wrote: »

I'm a very relaxed driver and don't let anything annoy me , sometimes I cannot believe how lawless the roads have become with practically no Garda around.

When did the roads become so lawless because if memory serves me right using your phone was legal up until 2006. Whats your reference time?

blackbird 49

I don't know if it make me mad or laugh, but it's amazing in this country the way they bring in laws / be it a fine for this or a fine and maybe jail for that but never or rarely implemented, if you are caught it a case of sheer bad luck

Jesus.

I think the OP should take a chill pill :rolleyes:

filbert the fox

Jesus. wrote: »

I think the OP should take a chill pill :rolleyes:

Good man Jesus. I'm glad I am not a follower.

RandomAccess

cml387 wrote: »

This comes up a lot.
In the next thread you'll see complaints about speed cameras being just an income source, and the gardai would be better employed catching criminals that harassing motorists.

Speed cameras are a distraction from the real business of road policing.
They don't have any effect on instances of dangerous driving which can happen at absolutely any speed.

You need Gards in cars with their eyes open and who can have faith in the justice system.

An exhibit from the other day

BMW breaks red light while on the wrong side of road and pushing through the junction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQB38spiC5M