Stove on end of terrace house with no chimney

maynooth_rules

Hi there,

want to get a stove in my house so that we dont have to rely on gas, which has been quote pricey for us this year. Would like to get a stove. Unfortunatly the fire place is on the side of the house that is attached to the neighbour. Its not a proper breast either and it stops at the roof of the living room (as i said, no chimney).
Im wondering about the possibility of putting a stove in the kitchen on the side of the wall that isnt attached to any neighbour and putting a flue outside up to the roof.
Is this a big job and roughly how much would it cost. Im a little clueless on this and i dont want to get taken for a ride when i get quotes. We would prefer to connect it to a back boiler too

Kevin McCloud

You could put an external stainless steel flue no problem, cost is unknown the flue kit is saucy. Get a few plumbers to do a quote for you, stay away from the ones who will arrive in a taxi.

kevinkmb36

A stove fitter is what you want. not necessarily a plumber unless you were fitting a boiler stove. You would need twin wall stainless steel piping on outside of wall which would be connected to gable end with brackets. this is expensive alright..prob abt €100 euro a metre or so, then plus bends and a y fitting coming in through wall to steel pipe connecting to stove,
A hearth is needed under stove, and hole made in wall for pipes to fit out.
So betweenprice of stove and pipes and fitting, can be expensive but will be a lovely feature.

huntsman77

Got a quote for a similar job few months ago to fit stove on a granite hearth and think was either 6 or 7 meters of twin wall stainless steel chimney all brackets incl was 3200 euro supply and fit hope this helps.

Paranoid Mandroid

Got a very rough price for something similar Op, price for install of stove and flue including flue but not price of stove was €1600. The prices of standalone stove varied a lot obviously. The top of the flue will need to be at least 1m above the gutter I think. I could be wrong but you may even need to run it higher depending location (ie if surrounded by tall trees, wind will be effected, therefore draw could be poor).

Thespoofer

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

Got a very rough price for something similar Op, price for install of stove and flue including flue but not price of stove was €1600. The prices of standalone stove varied a lot obviously. The top of the flue will need to be at least 1m above the gutter I think. I could be wrong but you may even need to run it higher depending location (ie if surrounded by tall trees, wind will be effected, therefore draw could be poor).

The correct height/clearance above the gutter is 1.8 Mtrs ( minimum ) and minimum 2.3 Mtrs clearance horizontally from the roof (slates/tiles).
I live in a similar type house with no chimney.
For 10 years I have longed for a real fire for my Wife and kids.
I bit the bullet, built on a room and also installed a solid fuel stove & flue, non boiler, myself. I'm kind of suspicious of a lot of tradespeople in regards to quality work, guess that's from working in the industry. I now even have local builders ( very well regarded ) asking me about stove and flue installation !
I researched EVERYTHING in regards to the new regs etc but we are so happy now and it's great to see the kids relax in front the fire.

Go for it OP, it's a bit pricey at the start but well, well worth it.

Good luck.

air

OP, since the primary motivation for this seems to be saving money, I think you are completely wasting your time.
Have a look here, in particular at the cost per delivered kWh column:
http://www.seai.ie/Publications/Statistics_Publications/Fuel_Cost_Comparison/Domestic-Fuel-Cost-Comparisons.pdf

You will see that solid fuels are only about 10% cheaper than gas per kWh delivered, which is the only thing that matters really.

When you install a stove you won't be able to avoid creating a thermal bridge through the wall with the flue and you will also compromise on your air tightness. The combination of these factors alone will more than eliminate that 10% saving. So your capital costs are then completely wasted.

This neglects the fact that you need to source, store and load the solid fuel, dispose of the ashes and put up with increased dust and dirt in your home. You also have the hassle of lighting the fire, maintaining the flue / chimney and monitoring another potential source of carbon monoxide.
Another side affect is reduced outdoor air quality for you and your neighbours.

By all means go ahead and install a stove, but don't think you're going to save any money on heating vs natural gas. If you want to spend money to save on your heating bills, spend it on insulation.