Susceptibility to Colds/Throats Post Vaping?

Calibos

In the annual Cold/flu thread on boards where someone says they are dying with the flu and we all jump on them and tell them they have a Cold, I posted in this years thread that not alone had I not had a flu in nearly 2 decades but it had been about 3 years since I had a cold or sore throat. I pondered in that thread whether working retail/tills for 25 years had exposed me to enough of the most prevalent strains of the 200 varieties of cold virus and thus I might now be immune to the most prevalent strains in any given year.

Soon after that thread I posted in the Vapiversary thread here, that I was nearing 3 years vaping.

My brain made a possible connection.

Vaping 3 years and haven't had a cold or sore throat in 3 years??

We've heard of the studies on PG as an anti bacterial and anti viral aerosol agent. Could coating the lungs with it from vaping be protecting us against some airborne pathogens.

So the question is, has anyone else noted a reduction in the numbers of Winter doses they've contracted since taking up vaping or is it just me??

Penny Tration

Not just you! I quit smoking just over 4 months ago, and took up vaping.

Now, I already had some lung damage, so was susceptible to colds anyway. I got a chest infection om average once every 6 weeks.

Since switching to vaping, I've had one nasty head cold that didn't affect my chest at all, and that's it.

Ionised

Tis my experience also. Two years off the fags and have yet to enjoy my annual chest infection!

nuttyboy79

Vaping since July and this is the first year that I can remember I haven't been a mess of snot and pghlem over the whole winter I got the sniffles once In January and it was gone after 3 days.

colly10

I'm vaping 3.5 years and havn't had any sickness within that time. Before that i used to get the odd chest infection.

I read a study a few years ago that pg was tested in air conditioning units in a hospital in the us during the 60/70's (if i remember right) and they found that it reduced the number of cases of Flu

dee_mc

I wondered this too! I noticed this year that although I had a bad head cold for 2 weeks or so, it never reached my chest. Since I was a teen (in other words, since I began smoking) I've had a nasty chest infection every November and January, but like others here have had nothing like that since I started vaping.
Hoping to ditch the vape in the next few months so will be interested to see how next winter goes!

RIchieNouveau

The 2 kids have had chesty coughs the past week and I've woken up today with a sore throat. Not too bad but enough to notice. A bit sniffly. I've definitely had less colds since starting.

WarmT

Isn't PG the same stuff they use as a base in asthma inhalers? Apparently having a disinfectant type effect on the lungs (if I remember reading that rightly somewhere).

There's also premium liquids from v-meds (expensive) and even one from Dekang (usual price) which I ordered myself from an Irish place which has Q10 or something like that added which apparently helps the lungs even more and helps repair cells.

I searched a bit on the v-meds one but it was like 40 euro or so for 10ml and I'm only new to vaping, so not gonna splash out that much myself yet on a liquid.
The dekang gold label one was 4 euro for 10ml, not the same liquids like but kind of the same idea with added ingredients to help your lungs.

The v-meds one though was also rated number 1 E-Liquid for 2014 according to a Vape magazine so I dunno, maybe it is worth the money.

Regardless, off the smokes myself now a week and switched to vaping and I feel a lot better health wise and the lungs feel great for it too and that's just from using a cheap menthol based liquid only.

I've had a constant chest infection for what seemed like over a year and that too now is gone since I stopped smoking and switched to vaping.

Even if it is maybe just a placebo effect, I'm happy with the outcome so far.

Didihno

Welcome to the rest of your life WarmT!

Euro Fred

No colds but never got them anyway but i do get ulcers on my tongue every 5- 6 weeks though

Didihno

Euro Fred wrote: »

No colds but never got them anyway but i do get ulcers on my tongue every 5- 6 weeks though

Thats from kissing dirty girls (or boys).:D

volchitsa

Hi, I don't smoke or vape, but this thread caught my eye. Do those of you who notice an improvement think it is probably just the result of no longer smoking tobacco, or that it could actually be an effect of the vaping itself? That would be fascinating, if so. (I might even have to take it up! )

dee_mc

Alas my run of bad luck is over, I have a dose of tonsillitis, and a heavy cold. I was really enjoying the idea of my magic vape protecting me from illness although in fairness it still hasn't reached my chest, and I used to be susceptible to chest infections, so maybe it's helping a bit!

Didihno

volchitsa wrote: »

Hi, I don't smoke or vape, but this thread caught my eye. Do those of you who notice an improvement think it is probably just the result of no longer smoking tobacco, or that it could actually be an effect of the vaping itself? That would be fascinating, if so. (I might even have to take it up! )

Smoking tobacco has so many bad effects on the body in real time (i.e. not even the long term health risks) that switching to vaping is extremely beneficial.

For example, I switched to vaping over 2 years ago and my G.P. has found my blood pressure returning to normal, my diabetes is for the first time under total control. Then you've got the other 'non detrimental' health related effects, such as taste, smell, sleep, 'bedroom activities' and general ability to go and improve your fitness leading to weight loss (due to being able to run or walk without coughing your guts up).

Really, the politicians need to cop the fk on and back this thing, instead of appearing to be in the pocket of either big tobacco, or big pharma (or both) by taking the opposing stance. That can be the only reason. Ignorance is no excuse, so it can only be corruption. Vaping is quite simply the only truly successful alternative to smoking and is massively less harmful, if harmful at all.
Proper testing and unbiased reporting of these tests are coming, follow the work of Dr. Farsalinos for the only true info that hasn't been misreported or conducted as either spin or sponsored by either big industry for their own interests. We are at a truly paradigm shifting event here, the emmergence of a technology that can actually kill tobacco products and improve the health of the whole world. And what are the worlds govts trying to do? Thats right. Stop it.
They are terrified, because money.

Everyone (or at least the immense majority) who tries vaping instead of tobacco reports similar improvements in health and wellbeing. Do not believe anything in the press unless its by Farsalinos and linked to his own website.
For example the recent hulabaloo over formaldehyde in e-cigs was cherry picked by biased media to create anti e-cig propaganda. The device used was set to a temperature and usage far far above what any vaper would ever use and indeed was totally fine at all other settings.
To put it into perspective, it was akin to saying we all are eating toast that had been burned to a cinder. Would you eat such toast? No. Would a vaper use a device so incorrectly as to literally burn the thing? No, it is impossible to vape such a thing, because its like eating charcoaled toast. You couldn't drink boiling water. You just wouldn't or couldn't physically do it.

Now regulation is not necessarily a bad thing either.
I believe some regulation is vital for e-cigs, but it must be done properly.
Liquids to be tested and deemed safe for vaping, devices similarly.
Over 18's bans for nicotine, absolutely.
Child proof caps on bottles, no brainer.
Some of this is indeed being included in regulations coming down the line, but there are much more onerus, unecessary things coming too. Things that are designed to kill e-cigs, or to give them into the hands of those who stand to profit most from their use. These things must be fought, and they aren't being fought by the people we voted for and put our trust in to do the right thing once in office. Its plain wrong and if they get their way, e-cigs will practically cease to exist and we'll all be back smoking and dying and buying inneffective quitting drugs and all the profit machines will once again be happy.

volchitsa

What I'm wondering about these e-cigarettes (and as I say I don't smoke so have no horse in the race either way) is whether they have the potential to make nicotine addiction, for want of a better word, as banal as a caffeine habit.

I drink a lot of coffee, and if I thought vaping was as pleasant a past time as coffee drinking, I might actually think of taking it up. (I probably wouldn't, tbh, at my age, but I might if I was 20 or 25).

And of course isn't that exactly the objection some people have to vaping - that it can attract non smokers in? But then if it's harmless, why the heck not? Either it's a dangerous "substitution" drug like methadone, and needs to be controlled so that only addicts to a more dangerous substance can get it, or it's a harmless way of delivering a minor kick, like caffeine, (or I guess alcohol, but that isn't harmless at all really, and probably too far off topic for this thread anyway).

RIchieNouveau

https://m.soundcloud.com/vp-live/suicide-bunny-e-liquids-test-positive?in=vp-live/sets/the-click-bang-archives

WarmT's link.

volchitsa

WarmT wrote: »

Thing is though, you can get many juices/liquids with no nicotine at all in them so the argument is kind of silly.

Silly, no less? Really? Or maybe you are just missing the point. Decaffeinated coffee exists too. So what? People who want a caffeine-jag won't drink decaffeinated coffee, will they?

So what has that got to do with the argument that non-smokers might start vaping as a way of taking nicotine without smoking? It's genuine question : what is so bad about nicotine once the tar etc of cigarettes has been taken out?

Why, once you had got rid of your smoking habit, did you feel the need to go on and stop your nicotine habit, and have you felt any health benefits other than those you would get from not smoking cigarettes?

It is something I do wonder about, and as I don't smoke I can't quite answer it myself, but I see that many smokers seem to assume that vaping is only for them, and often only as a staging post in their way to giving up smoking. And I dont quite see why that should be.


(And tbh I don't really appreciate being told that is a silly question, without being told why it's so silly. It's a discussion forum after all. Aren't we allowed to discuss? :rolleyes:)

jonski

volchitsa wrote: »

It is something I do wonder about, and as I don't smoke I can't quite answer it myself, but I see that many smokers seem to assume that vaping is only for them, and often only as a staging post in their way to giving up smoking. And I dont quite see why that should be.

I quit smoking and started vaping about nine months ago for both health and financial reasons ( tried a good few times to just give up smoking but I couldn't ). I now vape 6mg nicotine ( will probably drop to 3 mg now that I am using the sub tank more and more ) and have absolutely no intention of giving up vaping .As I have said a good few times on here in different threads nicotine is my coffee , I like what it does for/to me or at least what I perceive it does .

volchitsa

Yeah, that's my point, I'm like that about coffee, and I can quite see the attraction of vaping in the same way, once the disgusting smell of cigarettes and the accompanying health risks have been removed.

So OTOH I can see that I'm making exactly the argument that leads some people to want to prevent people like me from taking up vaping, and only vaping, since I would never dream of taking up smoking, but OTOH, is there really any harm in doing so?

I guess it's a little soon to be categorical that vaping really is as harmless as caffeine, but it does seem to be closer to coffee than to alcohol. Or am I missing something?

volchitsa

WarmT wrote: »

I never said you were silly, I said the argument was, don't take it personally, it's a typical argument put forward by some and yes I do think it's silly.

Sigh.

I didn't say you said that, did I?

Never mind, I can't be bothered getting into a sterile argument with someone who doesn't bother reading other people's points but just goes on arguing their own.

Luckily for me, other posters have been able to discuss the actual point I was making, so that's fine, you just go ahead and have your monologue. I've finished. :rolleyes:

RIchieNouveau

WarmT wrote: »

Dunno man, I'd just be loath to recommend taking up vaping as a healthier option to forming a nicotine addiction/habit if you've never previously had such from smoking - just really see absolutely no benefit from doing so, either recommending or the act itself.

I agree with this. Vaping makes sense to me as a health benefit because the alternative was smoking. If i could have quit smoking without the use of vaping I would have. As vaping is somewhat of an unknown entity with regards to long term health, I wouldn't recommend people who don't smoke to take it up. It makes sense as a harm reduction alternative to smoking, whether the goal is reducing nicotine content and eventually quitting, or not.

mewso

WarmT wrote: »

Either way, your pissiness is boring me, go take it out on some fat kid on reddit instead.

volchitsa wrote: »

Never mind, I can't be bothered getting into a sterile argument with someone who doesn't bother reading other people's points but just goes on arguing their own.

Luckily for me, other posters have been able to discuss the actual point I was making, so that's fine, you just go ahead and have your monologue. I've finished. :rolleyes:

Either both of you have a proper civil discussion or go elsewhere and WarmT no need for this kind of reaction no matter what.

mewso

WarmT banned for 3 days. I was happy to leave it at a warning until the last 6 posts by WarmT are suddenly deleted. Sorry too late and attempting to make the other poster look bad earns you a 3 day holiday.