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Anti-Vaxxer ordered to pay €100,000 by German court after spouting non-sense

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  • 13-03-2015 4:36pm
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    Drakares
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    A German biologist who offered €100,000 (£71,350; $106,300) to anyone who could prove that measles is a virus has been ordered by a court to pay up.
    Stefan Lanka, who believes the illness is psychosomatic, made the pledge four years ago on his website.
    The reward was later claimed by German doctor David Barden, who gathered evidence from various medical studies. Mr Lanka dismissed the findings.
    But the court in the town of Ravensburg ruled that the proof was sufficient.
    Reacting to the verdict by the court in the southern town, Mr Lanka said he would appeal.
    "It is a psychosomatic illness," he told regional paper Suedkurier. "People become ill after traumatic separations."
    A recent outbreak of measles in Germany has sparked a debate about whether vaccinations against the disease should be compulsory.
    An 18-month-old boy in Berlin died last month of the disease.
    The World Health Organization said it was "taken aback" by the 22,000 cases reported across Europe since 2014, urging to step up vaccinations.
    Measles is a highly contagious infectious disease characterised by a high fever, a rash and generally feeling unwell.
    The most severe cases can be fatal.
    hah, Haha, HAHAHA fecking twat got what he deserved. The fact that this man was a biologist is absolutely astounding.

    Cases of preventable diseases are popping up all over Europe and the States, courtesy of the brain-dead, hipster morons with the IQ of a ham sandwich who have been campaigning against the evil gubberment, who's plan is to make money for the Pharmas. A person I know doesn't have his child vaccinated because he read on some webpage (which, of course he says is fully trustworthy because it stated "Things your doctor won't tell you!") that in these vaccinations are liquidized dead babies and animals, the mind baffles.)

    Do you know any anti-vaxxers? Give us your experience with them. Are you an anti-vaxxer? If so, why?


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    Fratton Fred
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    Drakares wrote: »
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    hah, Haha, HAHAHA fecking twat got what he deserved. The fact that this man was a biologist is absolutely astounding.

    Cases of preventable diseases are popping up all over Europe and the States, courtesy of the brain-dead, hipster morons with the IQ of a ham sandwich who have been campaigning against the evil gubberment, who's plan is to make money for the Pharmas. A person I know doesn't have his child vaccinated because he read on some webpage (which, of course he says is fully trustworthy because it stated "Things your doctor won't tell you!") that in these vaccinations are liquidized dead babies and animals, the mind baffles.)

    Do you know any anti-vaxxers? Give us your experience with them. Are you an anti-vaxxer? If so, why?

    The thing with anti vaxxers, is that they have already made up their minds and any proof you give them makes you a lackey for big pharma, even your local gp is in on the conspiracy.


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    BizzyC
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    maximoose
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    Is hipster just basically a word for people you don't like now? No other traits needed?


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    Akrasia
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    Drakares wrote: »
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    hah, Haha, HAHAHA fecking twat got what he deserved. The fact that this man was a biologist is absolutely astounding.

    Cases of preventable diseases are popping up all over Europe and the States, courtesy of the brain-dead, hipster morons with the IQ of a ham sandwich who have been campaigning against the evil gubberment, who's plan is to make money for the Pharmas. A person I know doesn't have his child vaccinated because he read on some webpage (which, of course he says is fully trustworthy because it stated "Things your doctor won't tell you!") that in these vaccinations are liquidized dead babies and animals, the mind baffles.)

    Do you know any anti-vaxxers? Give us your experience with them. Are you an anti-vaxxer? If so, why?

    Excellent, now we just need someone to get Deepak Chopra to hand over his million dollars

    http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/deepak-challenge-to-skeptics/

    Any Neuroscientists around who could do with a bit of cash?

    I think the main barrier to this however, is that no judge would be able to figure out what the feck Deepak actually wants anyone to prove thereby making the challenge un-winnable.


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    There was someone on a thread not so long ago, insisting that breastfeeding made babies immune to HIV and that there was no need to give formula to babies with HIV infected mothers. Big news to every infectious disease specialist working in developing countries, I can tell you. Someone should tell them.

    Given people actually believe something so self-evidently stupid, nothing an anti-vaxxer says surprises me.


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    ancapailldorcha
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    YES!!! I love it when charlatans are called out. Doesn't happen nearly as often as it should.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    Akrasia wrote: »
    Excellent, now we just need someone to get Deepak Chopra to hand over his million dollars

    I despise that man, on so many levels. I don't despise his loyal fans, but I find it hard to take them seriously.


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    Duggy747
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    Candie wrote: »
    I despise that man, on so many levels. I don't despise his loyal fans, but I find it hard to take them seriously.

    Infinite possibilities of cosmic bollox talk, an absolute disgrace that he has earned millions on such piss-poor mangling of science who pulls out his "atheists are out to get me" card at every opportunity when he gets pulled up on it.

    Another wizard Oprah gave a platform to.


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    strobe
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    maximoose wrote: »
    Is hipster just basically a word for people you don't like now? No other traits needed?

    What a stone cold hipster thing to say.


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    Karl Stein
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    Candie wrote: »
    I despise that man, on so many levels.

    Like Jeremy Clarkson in a lift.


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    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Like Jeremy Clarkson in a lift.


    :pac:

    Assuming the lift that could carry him exists!


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    RobertKK
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    The anti-Vaccination brigade are causing needless death.


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    The thing with anti vaxxers, is that they have already made up their minds and any proof you give them makes you a lackey for big pharma, even your local gp is in on the conspiracy.
    Me, I'm ANTI-vaccine, I don't want future generations to have to take vaccines for measles or polio or whatever.

    These idiots are PRO-vaccine.
    Their actions are dedicated to ensuring future generations will still need vaccines.


    It's got to the stage where I'm starting to think that they are most afraid of being stuck raising an autistic child, despite the fact that Wakefield faked the data and that the main risk , up to 98%, of autism is genetic. .


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    Drakares
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Me, I'm ANTI-vaccine, I don't want future generations to have to take vaccines for measles or polio or whatever.

    These idiots are PRO-vaccine.
    Their actions are dedicated to ensuring future generations will still need vaccines.


    It's got to the stage where I'm starting to think that they are most afraid of being stuck raising an autistic child, despite the fact that Wakefield faked the data and that the main risk , up to 98%, of autism is genetic. .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo


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    ancapailldorcha
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Me, I'm ANTI-vaccine, I don't want future generations to have to take vaccines for measles or polio or whatever.

    These idiots are PRO-vaccine.
    Their actions are dedicated to ensuring future generations will still need vaccines.


    It's got to the stage where I'm starting to think that they are most afraid of being stuck raising an autistic child, despite the fact that Wakefield faked the data and that the main risk , up to 98%, of autism is genetic. .

    The problem now is the cost of developing and assessing new vaccines for those diseases which could have been eradicated. I'm glad that some clinics have stopped accepting non-vaccinated children and hopefully this goes some way to convincing people that vaccines are necessary.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    belacqua_
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    The anti-Vaccination brigade are causing needless death.

    Needle-less death, ehhh.


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    weisses
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    I think the guy had some balls to offer it in the first place ..... Kudos to him :D


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    ancapailldorcha
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    weisses wrote: »
    I think the guy had some balls to offer it in the first place ..... Kudos to him :D

    Kudos? He offered it and then refused to live up to his obligation when conclusive evidence was proffered.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    shruikan2553
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Kudos? He offered it and then refused to live up to his obligation when conclusive evidence was proffered.

    If he was a person who accepted evidence he wouldnt have been against vaccinations in the first place.


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    weisses
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Kudos? He offered it and then refused to live up to his obligation when conclusive evidence was proffered.

    Ahh but he offered it .. That's what matters So kudos yes ... Was it stupid ..also Yes :P


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    ancapailldorcha
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    weisses wrote: »
    Ahh but he offered it .. That's what matters So kudos yes ... Was it stupid ..also Yes :P

    Why Kudos when he wouldn't pay up? I'm just glad he has legal expenses on top it now.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    Pherekydes
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    The anti-Vaccination brigade are causing needless death.

    The pro-Vaccination brigade are causing dearth of needles .


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    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    Drakares wrote: »
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    hah, Haha, HAHAHA fecking twat got what he deserved. The fact that this man was a biologist is absolutely astounding.

    Cases of preventable diseases are popping up all over Europe and the States, courtesy of the brain-dead, hipster morons with the IQ of a ham sandwich who have been campaigning against the evil gubberment, who's plan is to make money for the Pharmas. A person I know doesn't have his child vaccinated because he read on some webpage (which, of course he says is fully trustworthy because it stated "Things your doctor won't tell you!") that in these vaccinations are liquidized dead babies and animals, the mind baffles.)

    Do you know any anti-vaxxers? Give us your experience with them. Are you an anti-vaxxer? If so, why?
    Equating anti-vaccers to ham sandwiches is terribly harsh....on ham sandwiches...


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    Shrap
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    Saw this yesterday in A&A. Very topical and a great little video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpfNScEd3M

    "Hey, remember that time you got polio? No? That's because your parents got you fcuking vaccinated.' Awesome. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94673309&postcount=5509


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    Guy:Incognito
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    weisses wrote: »
    Ahh but he offered it .. That's what matters So kudos yes ... Was it stupid ..also Yes :P

    I could offer €1m towards helping sick kids. I don't have €1m. Do I still get the credit though?


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    Drakares
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    I could offer €1m towards helping sick kids. I don't have €1m. Do I still get the credit though?

    Campaigning against something that could prevent someone from giving their children life-saving treatment is not the same as a false promise.


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    ancapailldorcha
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    Drakares wrote: »
    Campaigning against something that could prevent someone from giving their children life-saving treatment is not the same as a false promise.

    Same concept though.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    cc87
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    Shrap wrote: »
    Saw this yesterday in A&A. Very topical and a great little video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpfNScEd3M

    "Hey, remember that time you got polio? No? That's because your parents got you fcuking vaccinated.' Awesome. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94673309&postcount=5509

    He made another one about the response he got

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2mdwmpLYLY


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