PC madness

the_monkey

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/rape-crisis-network-criticises-misogynistic-anti-drinking-ad-1.2136984

Ridicolous ...

MOD - Adding a bit of context from the article

The Rape Crisis Network of Ireland has called for the immediate withdrawal of an advertisement aimed at raising awareness of alcohol abuse

The network says the ad from the Stop Out-of-Control Drinking campaign and published in a national newspaper today, is “misogynistic” and promotes the idea that women who drink are “asking” to be physically and sexually assaulted.

The campaign however rejects the assertion by the RCNI, saying it has ”wildly misunderstood” the advertisement.

Generic Dreadhead

I've always preferred the Nintendo games to be honest. PC is good for strategy games though

bodice ripper

do you think you could dumb it down OP? we aren't all rocket scientists.

SEPT 23 1989

It obvious that the ad is about setting an example for your younger siblings

where did they get the asking to be raped bit from?

wendell borton

Never trust a PC you can't throw out a window.

Slicemeister

This glasshouse really is a thing of beauty.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I think they have a point. I took it to be her mother in the background and that the girl was attacked because she was drunk. I see it differently having read the explanation but it is far from obvious.

Wacker The Attacker

bodice ripper wrote: »

do you think you could dumb it down OP? we aren't all rocket scientists.

I agree. It went completely over my head too.

Birneybau

I used to love Marble Madness!

The Backwards Man

As long as they have one with a young lad coming in with a shiner, a loose tooth and a taco chip down his shirt and his wee brother watching then I see nothing with it.

Mint Aero

Out of control drinking ruins your ability to apply mascara?

Renegade Mechanic

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

It obvious that the ad is about setting an example for your younger siblings

where did they get the asking to be raped bit from?

These people need to be sent to African mines. The depth they can dig to, to find things would put any equipment to shame.

KungPao

I think Clíona Saidléar has clearly got the wrong end of the stick.

SEPT 23 1989

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

It obvious that the ad is about setting an example for your younger siblings

where did they get the asking to be raped bit from?

The Rape Crisis Centre and their need for publicity, funding and constantly making out that everything is worse than it is to increase the two aforementioned reasons.

The Strawman Argument

"Who's following in your footsteps? Out of control drinking has consequences" could certainly be interpreted as implying something along those lines, especially when the child in the background is out of focus. I definitely didn't get the actual idea behind the ad immediately, I just saw a woman looking wrecked and a figure in the background to heighten the shame factor, immediately took the text as being literal and alluding to rape too.

Kaylin Alive Hazel

Kaylin Alive Hazel wrote: »

I think they have a point. I took it to be her mother in the background and that the girl was attacked because she was drunk. I see it differently having read the explanation but it is far from obvious.

Did you think the implication was her mother attacked her? Surely the "following in your footsteps" bit would make it obvious it's referring to the person skilfully framed in the photo behind her?

valoren

When you drink too much and lose control, you're not aware of who is 'following in your footsteps' thus you are more liable to be assaulted or raped when you lose control because all men are potential rapists?

Is that their angle here or what?

arayess

The Strawman Argument wrote: »

"Who's following in your footsteps? Out of control drinking has consequences" could certainly be interpreted as implying something along those lines, especially when the child in the background is out of focus. I definitely didn't get the actual idea behind the ad immediately, I just saw a woman looking wrecked and a figure in the background to heighten the shame factor, immediately took the text as being literal and alluding to rape too.

you know even if it did allude to rape - I don't see why that's a bad thing.
Or victim blaming.

Excessive drinking does make you more prone to attack and rape. Its' common sense. It's not victim blaming to point this out.
To me it's common sense - be in control and you'll be safer than somebody who it's pissed out of their mind.

The rapist is clearly wrong but to say people shouldn't stay safe is naive.

Generic Dreadhead

arayess wrote: »

you know even if it did allude to rape - I don't see why that's a bad thing.
Or victim blaming.

Excessive drinking does make you more prone to attack and rape. Its' common sense. It's not victim blaming to point this out.
To me it's common sense - be in control and you'll be safer than somebody who it's pissed out of their mind.

The rapist is clearly wrong but to say people should stay safe is naive.

Oh ho ho, you're gonna go far here :pac:

G_R

the_monkey wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/rape-crisis-network-criticises-misogynistic-anti-drinking-ad-1.2136984

Ridicolous ...

Mod

This isn't a news dump OP - maybe give more of an opinion that "ridiculous" next time.

The Backwards Man

Looking at it closely, is there another angle or photo that isn't shown? Nothing there that I can see to suggest or imply that the young lady was attacked, just the usual wear and tear from a few too many on a night out.

Lollipops23

I took it to be "she's a drunken mess" and her younger sister is liable be influenced by her.

Nowhere did I see anything alluding to rape or assault. It'd be different if it showed her waking up somewhere strange with her knickers on the floor.

Karl Stein

OP can you define 'PC gone mad' and show how it applies to this issue?

Thanks.

NachoBusiness

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ohnonotgmail

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I agree. It went completely over my head too.

rockets tend to do that.

Dramatik

Thought this was going to be about some annoying add on the radio.

"Come on down to PC Madness! We've literally gone mad with huge savings on our full range of laptops, you'd be mad to miss it..."

Magico Gonzalez

Dramatik wrote: »

Thought this was going to be about some annoying add on the radio.

"Come on down to PC Madness! We've literally gone mad with huge savings on our full range of laptops, you'd be mad to miss it..."

15% discount if you bring a copy of the liberal agenda or for card carrying members of the PC Brigade.

The Strawman Argument

Didn't see the full sized image until just there, the figure in the background is more pronounced there so it does get its point across more. I still think it warrants criticism though.


The whole campaign's pretty terrible by the looks of it*. I've attached two I got from their website. All I can see these doing is influencing parody ones on facebook...


* (sigh) just to clarify, I mean it's nothing but a big gigantic waste of time where Diageo can get a pat on the back safe in the knowledge that it's not gonna harm their income one bit.

The Strawman Argument

The Strawman Argument wrote: »

Didn't see the full sized image until just there, the figure in the background is more pronounced there so it does get its point across more. I still think it warrants criticism though.


The whole campaign's pretty terrible by the looks of it. I've attached two I got from their website. All I can see these doing is influencing parody ones on facebook...

Oh my God that guy is obviously performing oral sex on that toilet!

ThisRegard

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Looking at it closely, is there another angle or photo that isn't shown? Nothing there that I can see to suggest or imply that the young lady was attacked, just the usual wear and tear from a few too many on a night out.

I think it's simply about setting an example, there's even a tag line down the bottom right.

The rape crisis people read something into it that's not there.

The ad is very vague. It could be interpreted in a number of ways.
I didn't see any direct implication of rape myself but it's pretty poor to have an ad this vague if it's for a campaign that's supposed to have a clear message.