Chastisement, Fatima, Father Malachi Martin, 2017

hinault

I've been reading some accounts about how the church, in the form of the Pope, is, according to the apparitions at Fatima in 1917, required to consecrate Russia to Immaculate Heart of Mary.

According to Father Malachi Martin, who is one of the few people to have seen and to have read the contents of the 3rd secret, the apparitions at Fatima directed that pope must consecrate Russia. This was supposed to be done by 1960.
If this is not done, the risk of mankind incurring a great chastisement, is real.

It is reported that in 1960 the pope, Pope John XXIII, refused to make public the contents of the 3rd secret, saying that the secret's contents "are not for this time".

Father Malachi Martin while respecting the seal of confidentiality about the contents of secret, subsequently hinted that the pope's failure to consecrate Russia will bring war and destruction "from the East".

In a radio interview in 1992, when discussing the topic of Fatima, Father Martin mentioned chastisement and specifically Kiev in relation to the secret.

Looking at events now in Ukraine, considering Father Martin's comment about Kiev in 1992, the fact that Fatima 1917 asked the pope to consecrate Russia, are we seeing a prophecy being fulfilled?

homer911

hinault wrote: »

required to consecrate Russia to Immaculate Heart of Mary.

What does this mean??

indy_man

I would recommend watching these on the subject. Seem to suggest chastisements are on the way.

hinault

homer911 wrote: »

What does this mean??

Here is an explanation

In the homily he gave on May 13, 1982, Pope John Paul II explains what consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary means. His analysis is historic. It is the first time that a sovereign pontiff provided such an in-depth explanation.

But more importantly, the analysis became necessary because of the confusion in so many people’s minds. What exactly does the Church understand by this consecration and what are its implications for devoted Christians in our day?

The doctrinal basis for our consecration is the prior fact of Mary’s spiritual motherhood. On Calvary, Christ entrusted us, in the person of St. John, to His Mother’s care, when He told her, “Behold your Son.” That was the beginning of Mary’s mediation. On Calvary, Christ also entrusted Mary to us, again in the person of John, when He told the apostle, “Behold your Mother.” That was the beginning of our consecration to Mary.

We are to entrust ourselves to her maternal care. Another name for this entrustment is consecration.

hinault

indy_man wrote: »

I would recommend watching these on the subject. Seem to suggest chastisements are on the way.

Thanks for posting these interesting links

Cen taurus

indy_man wrote: »

I would recommend watching these on the subject. Seem to suggest chastisements are on the way.

My opinion is that if the people who spend their time running after signs and wonders and fretting and speculating about private revelations and "chastisements", would only spend a fraction of their time loving God, and partaking of his sacraments, and helping and loving others, the world would be a much better place. Take your lead from Pope Francis instead.

noel farrell

great to have a post with a bit of cop on. there are a whole bunch of super holey rc catholic's on the web . hoping the god of all mercy and love will zap two third's of the world sinner's . always able to see the sin of others never their own,

oldozer

hinault wrote: »

Here is an explanation

I read somewhere as to how JP ll gave an interview as to this secret. He gave it to a German magazine with the words of caution as to the people only reading into this letter for curiosity .
I also think of reading Lucia saying of the world consecration being adequate as it included Russia.

There are Locutions out there as to The Holy Mother having a chosen son to carry out Her wishes. The consecration to Russia by name has to be fulfilled but according to some it is a problem owing to some of the flock not willing to take part in this consecration. (Smoke in The Vatican).

I have been reading those prophecies for quite a number of years. There are but about three of those I read would have my attention. Not good news alas as we are to be refined before Russia is back in the fold. Only stands to reason really as we look about. For my sins I noted to a local Priest one day........ Hell is empty right now Father. How do you make that out he replied ?.......Well look about the world in general is all I could think ?

Dozer.

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Pope John Paul II consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart on the 17th of May 1984, with Cardinal Hlinica simultaneously doing same in Moscow. According to Sr Lucia, this was accepted by the Holy Mother (if I remember correctly).

At the same time, the Soviet Atlantic Fleet was crippled in what was known as the Severmorsk Explosion (http://redbannernorthernfleet.blogspot.ie/2008/05/soviet-naval-disaster-of-day.html). This effectively saved the world from chastisement as the Soviets were unable to invade Europe (which they were planning to do, see the Kuklinski revelations for more info). I remember posting info about this before on the "Prophecy Regarding Russia" thread, this is just stuff that I still remember. I think all we need now prayer and patience.

indy_man

Anyone else believe we are going to be judged more harshly by God if we allow same sex marriage. I believe this is true an the judgement is probably the chastisement.

I think this can help.

There has been a worldwide call for a 54 day novena, seeking Our Lady's help in averting a yes vote in the referendum: www.saintnicholasparish.ie/2015/03/54-day-rosary-novena-for-ireland-2015/

. It's to start today (St Patrick's day) and continue until the 54 days are up, after the result. All you have to do is add an intention, to your daily Rosary, asking for a No vote on same sex marriage in Ireland.

keano_afc

indy_man wrote: »

Anyone else believe we are going to be judged more harshly by God if we allow same sex marriage. I believe this is true an the judgement is probably the chastisement.

I think this can help.

There has been a worldwide call for a 54 day novena, seeking Our Lady's help in averting a yes vote in the referendum: www.saintnicholasparish.ie/2015/03/54-day-rosary-novena-for-ireland-2015/

. It's to start today (St Patrick's day) and continue until the 54 days are up, after the result. All you have to do is add an intention, to your daily Rosary, asking for a No vote on same sex marriage in Ireland.

There are no grades of judgement meted out by God. If we face God having never known Him, then we are punished. No sinner gets judged harsher than another.

As for the referendum, we need to be in prayer for our nation as it seeks to redefine what God has instituted in the ceremony of marriage. But the idea of God giving us extra punishment if it passes is pretty silly

hinault

indy_man wrote: »

Anyone else believe we are going to be judged more harshly by God if we allow same sex marriage. I believe this is true an the judgement is probably the chastisement.

I think this can help.

There has been a worldwide call for a 54 day novena, seeking Our Lady's help in averting a yes vote in the referendum: www.saintnicholasparish.ie/2015/03/54-day-rosary-novena-for-ireland-2015/

. It's to start today (St Patrick's day) and continue until the 54 days are up, after the result. All you have to do is add an intention, to your daily Rosary, asking for a No vote on same sex marriage in Ireland.

Yes, Jesus Christ was crystal clear about marriage being between male and female only.

It is important for everyone who has the vote and who considers themselves to be Christian to think about Jesus teaching about marriage when they vote.

Nick Park

indy_man wrote: »

Anyone else believe we are going to be judged more harshly by God if we allow same sex marriage. I believe this is true an the judgement is probably the chastisement.

Nope.

I would vote 'No' if I was in Ireland on the 22nd (I'll be away in Israel) but I don't believe we are going to be judged more harshly if (or more probably when) the Referendum passes.

Baggio1

jp2 failed to consecrate Russia to the immaculate heart by NOT mentioning Russia specifically, he consecrated the whole world but not Russia by name,

john 23rd also failed to do as instructed, by the way he also said on his death bed that the 2nd council was a mistake, o'l hornheard had his free mason agents in on the inside to completely undermine the mass and especially any specified role for ST.Michael The Archangel in the mass or in protection of the church,, (youll rarely see any statues/art images of St.Michael these days that was by design)

lastly in a meeting between Vladimir Putin of Russia not long ago he asked fake pope Frankie about the consecration of Russia the answer he got was quote - "we will not discuss Fatima" interesting that Frankie doesn't want what was asked for discussed with the very leader of the very country mentioned,, such a shame as putin has revamped the orthodox Christian faith in Russia and supports Christians in mid east and Europe unlike the crooks and liars in western Europe and usa...... kiev? yep is central,,, the usa/nato/eu crooks are behind the khoo and also constant provoking of Russia on a daily basis,,, sanctions ARE an act of war and I've nooo doubt this war is close,,,,Obama and putin are biblical figures as is fake pope Frankie and of course the AC

MrPudding

Baggio1 wrote: »

jp2 failed to consecrate Russia to the immaculate heart by NOT mentioning Russia specifically, he consecrated the whole world but not Russia by name,

john 23rd also failed to do as instructed, by the way he also said on his death bed that the 2nd council was a mistake, o'l hornheard had his free mason agents in on the inside to completely undermine the mass and especially any specified role for ST.Michael The Archangel in the mass or in protection of the church,, (youll rarely see any statues/art images of St.Michael these days that was by design)

lastly in a meeting between Vladimir Putin of Russia not long ago he asked fake pope Frankie about the consecration of Russia the answer he got was quote - "we will not discuss Fatima" interesting that Frankie doesn't want what was asked for discussed with the very leader of the very country mentioned,, such a shame as putin has revamped the orthodox Christian faith in Russia and supports Christians in mid east and Europe unlike the crooks and liars in western Europe and usa...... kiev? yep is central,,, the usa/nato/eu crooks are behind the khoo and also constant provoking of Russia on a daily basis,,, sanctions ARE an act of war and I've nooo doubt this war is close,,,,Obama and putin are biblical figures as is fake pope Frankie and of course the AC

Wow. Your world is a scary place.

MrP

j80ezgvc3p92xu

Baggio1 wrote: »

jp2 failed to consecrate Russia to the immaculate heart by NOT mentioning Russia specifically, he consecrated the whole world but not Russia by name,

john 23rd also failed to do as instructed, by the way he also said on his death bed that the 2nd council was a mistake, o'l hornheard had his free mason agents in on the inside to completely undermine the mass and especially any specified role for ST.Michael The Archangel in the mass or in protection of the church,, (youll rarely see any statues/art images of St.Michael these days that was by design)

lastly in a meeting between Vladimir Putin of Russia not long ago he asked fake pope Frankie about the consecration of Russia the answer he got was quote - "we will not discuss Fatima" interesting that Frankie doesn't want what was asked for discussed with the very leader of the very country mentioned,, such a shame as putin has revamped the orthodox Christian faith in Russia and supports Christians in mid east and Europe unlike the crooks and liars in western Europe and usa...... kiev? yep is central,,, the usa/nato/eu crooks are behind the khoo and also constant provoking of Russia on a daily basis,,, sanctions ARE an act of war and I've nooo doubt this war is close,,,,Obama and putin are biblical figures as is fake pope Frankie and of course the AC

That is a bit over the top mate, even for me . JP II did consecrate Russia specifically by name, why this information is not widely available is a mystery to me. This was confirmed by his closest associates. JP II had what you can only describe as a "burning anger" towards the "evil empire" and he did everything in his power to destroy it, including (if this information is correct) funneling Vatican funds to the anti-Communist Solidarity movement in Poland. Also the fact of the Severmorsk explosion seems to further corroborate his consecration.

As for Vatican II, the Novus Ordus and masons within the Vatican I would broadly agree with you but that is another topic for another thread I think.