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Delta MD80 off the runway at LGA

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    Shannon757
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    http://archive-server.liveatc.net/klga/KLGA-Twr-Mar-05-2015-1600Z.mp3

    Around 3:20 mark.


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    IRLConor
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    https://twitter.com/steveblaze98/status/573519478333554690


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    sully2010
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    They're lucky, over that fence is rocks and water.


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    Tenger
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    So far I have seen quite a few tweets/status updates from pax.

    Good example of the "please evacuate the aircraft before tweeting" joke.


    On a more serious point.......
    sully2010 wrote: »
    They're lucky, over that fence is rocks and water.
    There are pics showing the nose over water. Scary view for the flight deck.
    From FDNY twitter feed:
    https://twitter.com/FDNY/status/573549408110972929/photo/1


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    N64
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    is it just me or do aircraft in the US seem to be incredibly old when compared to Europe? Aircraft in question is about 27 years old :o


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    Tenger
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    N64 wrote: »
    is it just me or do aircraft in the US seem to be incredibly old when compared to Europe? Aircraft in question is about 27 years old :o
    I think that its a reflection of the different culture of the industry on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Remember that the media has an obsession on aircraft age but commercial aircraft ARE designed to be flown for 20+ years. They are not a Ford Focus!

    The EU airlines have a predominance of younger aircraft due to the average age of the airlines there being lower. Think Ryanair, Vueling, Easyjet, Norwegian, WizzAir etc. The 'legacy' carriers have had a decade of fleet replenishment to lower their average age.

    Also look at Asia, carriers there probably have a lower average age than EU, their air passenger growth has been more recent that in the EU.

    Meanwhile the US carriers have been consolidating and dealing with their Chapter 11 bankruptcy situations.


    Those older Mad-Dogs of Delta and American have paid for themselves many years ago. These aircraft would be wholly owned by the airline, so no leasing costs. By keeping them flying these airline get a good return on investment which they previously would not get from financing new fleet replacements. (Keep in mind the sheer size of the US airlines, all of the big 3 [ DL, AA, UA] have over 6-700 aircraft)
    The average age of US aircraft will reduce in the coming years as they retire older frames and take delivery of newer A320/B737/A330/B777 models.


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    Reoil
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    That'll be a write-off then?


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    Madpaddy79
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    IRLConor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/steveblaze98/status/573519478333554690

    Unbeliveably lucky those wings didn't ignite with the other 3 exits rendered useless leaving what looks like over wing exits only availible. Could have been a very different outcome with fuel reported leaking from left wing. Blessed.


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    The Black Oil
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    NTSB update and two pics.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    L1011
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    N64 wrote: »
    is it just me or do aircraft in the US seem to be incredibly old when compared to Europe? Aircraft in question is about 27 years old :o

    If 9/11 hadn't caused the huge drop in traffic *and* the oil price hikes we had a few times since then I'd suspect that most airlines in the states would still be flying 727s domestically.

    United and AA are dramatically de-aging their fleets at the moment - AAs MDs include the last made but they're going anyway.


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