P45 'lost in the post'

beibhinnbunny

I left my old job last December and started a new one in January.
I have yet to receive a p45 from the previous employer so I have been really badly emergency taxed since starting my new job.
Now my old company says they issued it and told me it 'must of went missing in transit' I am owed a lot of tax back which I won't receive without the p45.
They have told me it is against legislation to reissued one, does anyone know if it's true??!
Revenue have no record of receiving a p45 for me or any other details and presumed I was still working there, if they had created a p45 for me would Revenue have been informed automatically?
The payroll for my old job was done in the UK so I'm really hoping they are confusing things otherwise il lose a lot!
They have offered me a Statement of Income but neither my employer or Revenue will except this.
Any help would be appreciated I am really counting on this money!

chickenlicken2

Yes that's technically true regarding copies of p45. It's on the revenue website under employer's guide to paye in the business and self assessment section.

However it's also true that if it was filed with revenue they would have the details at this stage. You really do need to follow up on this.

You mention payroll was done on the UK, were you paying Irish taxes or UK taxes, this may have something to do with it. Did you get payslips?

For the current job ring Revenue and provide them with your new employer's tax number and get your credits and tax bands transferred over.

Stheno

Your p45 from last year has no bearing on this tax year. Call revenue with your employers number and they will issue a cert of tax credits and allowances for this year from January on

beibhinnbunny

beibhinnbunny wrote: »

I left my old job last December and started a new one in January.
I have yet to receive a p45 from the previous employer so I have been really badly emergency taxed since starting my new job.
Now my old company says they issued it and told me it 'must of went missing in transit' I am owed a lot of tax back which I won't receive without the p45.
They have told me it is against legislation to reissued one, does anyone know if it's true??!
Revenue have no record of receiving a p45 for me or any other details and presumed I was still working there, if they had created a p45 for me would Revenue have been informed automatically?
The payroll for my old job was done in the UK so I'm really hoping they are confusing things otherwise il lose a lot!
They have offered me a Statement of Income but neither my employer or Revenue will except this.
Any help would be appreciated I am really counting on this money!

Thanks for that 😊 I was paying Irish tax and have been in contact with Revenue who say nothing can be done without a p45 I don't understand how I can be out so much money over 1 piece of paper getting lost in transit, is there anything that can be done?
I have given in the company registration no already so won't get emergency taxed from here on but I can't claim back all I'm owed

Stheno

beibhinnbunny wrote: »

Thanks for that 😊 I was paying Irish tax and have been in contact with Revenue who say nothing can be done without a p45 I don't understand how I can be out so much money over 1 piece of paper getting lost in transit, is there anything that can be done?
I have given in the company registration no already so won't get emergency taxed from here on but I can't claim back all I'm owed

The tax year runs from January to December, so once your new employer gets your details you'll get the emergency tax back once they process

chickenlicken2

Was your p45 issued in 2014 or 2015.

If it's 2014:
Ring Revenue and request that your tax credits are applied to your current employer on a cumulative basis. Any tax due back for this year will be refunded in your payslip.

For the previous employment you will need to push this yourself. From the Revenue website:

An employer should not in any circumstances supply duplicates of parts 2, 3 or 4 to an employee who has left the employment. Where the original has been lost or mislaid a letter can be given to the employee stating all relevant pay, tax and PRSI information.

Request this letter. Did you get payslips from your old employer?

gozunda

Unfortunately while employers are legally obliged to provide employees with a P45 many don't bother their proverbial rear ends doing so. Talking to some high level revenue staff - the issue is that the government policy is not to upset employers so generally don't follow up when employers fail to provide P45s. Plus there seems to be no stated penalties for employers who fail to do so. A blatant bias against employees imo.

allthedoyles

If you have your final payslip from December 2014, photocopy it and send it to Revenue and request a P21 .

Or you could register for paye-anytime at www.revenue.ie and enter the figures manually and request a P21 online .

chickenlicken2

allthedoyles wrote: »

If you have your final payslip from December 2014, photocopy it and send it to Revenue and request a P21 .

Or you could register for paye-anytime and enter the figures manually and request a P21 online .

You can do this but it won't trigger your refund. Your employer needs to return the information to revenue.

Payroll isn't live data with the Revenue. Either a P45 or else the annual P35 (filed in February) needs to be submitted to revenue by the employer. They won't just take you completing the pay and tax on paye anytime; as this is cross checked to the P35.

However doing this may cause revenue to contact your employer to confirm this so there is no harm in this.

I would send a registered letter to the employer requesting confirmatio by return post within 7 days with a statement of earnings, paye prsi and usc paid and confirmation that your p45 has been filed.

It it's important for you for credit for tax paid but also for your record of earnings and prsi paid that your income is correctly recorded with revenue.

Tow

There is a lot of BS on this thread. The P45 is for last year it is largely irrelevant at this stage. In summary, just ring Revenue armed with your PPS No. and your new employers number, tell them you started working with the new employer at the start of the year and want all your tax allowances transferred over to them on a cumulative basis. Do NOT start talking to them about P45s and telling them a story, it will only confuse the matter.

chickenlicken2

The P45 is irrelevant for the current tax year, on the assumption of course that it was issued in 2014.
In the greater scheme of things it's not really irrelevant and it's worthwhile to sort now rather than down the line. If OP was paying irish taxes and the revenue don't have her pay and tax for 2014 then either the P45 hasn't been submitted or the P35 is late being filed.
OP has already mentioned they are due tax back for 2014 which they can't claim without the pay and tax on file. In addition if they need to claim social welfare down the line and the details still aren't filed then delays are inevitable.