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Cavity insulation or warmboards

  • 04-03-2015 11:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭


    Hi looking at getting an extension done and we're torn between building with cavity blocks and then pumping insulation into them or using warmboards.

    Getting advice from both camps

    Anyone got any opinions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Warm boards all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭RoryMurphyJnr


    cheers can I ask based on what?
    complete novice here
    the wife is insisting on cavity :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Less chance of heat loss because the insulation is closer to the room.

    This is only my opinion but if you pump the cavity, you'll have a loss of heat through the normal boards and that heat will unnecessarily be between block and plasterboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭RoryMurphyJnr


    thanks makes sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭dathi


    building with cavity blocks and then pumping insulation into them
    ?

    you can not pump a cavity block with insulation http://mccarthystramore.ie/wp-content/uploads/hollow.jpg you can only pump a cavity wall. ie. 100mm solid concrete block 100mm cavity (with wall ties ) 100mm solid block.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭RoryMurphyJnr


    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,717 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    We did both.
    110mm cavity filled with pumped bead and 50mm high density insulated slabs on all external walls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    Hi looking at getting an extension done and we're torn between building with cavity blocks and then pumping insulation into them or using warmboards.

    Getting advice from both camps

    Anyone got any opinions?

    Assuming your are talking about a cavity wall scenario and not taking construction costs into account:

    Warmboard pros:
    • room heats quicker
    Warmboard cons:
    • room cools quicker when heat source turned off due to lack of thermal mass
    • impossible to achieve a good and longterm level of air tightness
    • reduces room size
    • brings the dew point of the wall into the room (increased risk of damp/mould at back of insulation
    • thermal bridging at all internal wall junctions with external wall
    • can be difficult to mechanically fix heavy objects to
    • can hide shoddy workmanship at the back of the boards
    Cavity wall pros:
    • Room stays warmer for longer due to thermal mass (stored heat)
    • External walls will take up and store any available solar radiation available for later release
    • Using an airtight plaster, superior airtightness can be achieved
    • Dew point of wall stays in the cavity - where it should be
    • No thermal bridging at internal / external wall junctions
    • Simpler to mechanically fix heavy objects to
    • No loss of room space
    Cavity wall cons:
    • room heats up slower

    OP, have you considered block on flat with ewi (external wall insulation) or timberframe?

    In my experience, getting a good level of air tightness is key (note, the backstop level in the b.regs is very poor)


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