Car Accident

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 5:09pm #1

Hi all

I was involved in a car accident at the weekend that happened like this:
At a fork in the road I needed to get into the left lane to proceed to left of the fork. I indicated to move into the left lane and was clipped by a car coming from behind also taking left fork. I applied brakes but road was wet and couldn't avoid crashing into car in front. (It was an old woman who apparently had also been run into by a bus last week). The other car was an Aston Martin. Everything looked fine when I checked my mirrors to go left but I can't be sure what speed the AM was doing. Because to was already in the lane do I have to accept responsibility?

Thanks
ftc

edburg · 03-03-2015 5:14pm

If you maneuvered into that lane then it will be deemed your fault unfortunately.

skibum · 03-03-2015 5:16pm

Before you indicated to move into the left lane did you check your mirrors to see if it was safe to move into left lane?

Henry Ford III · 03-03-2015 5:29pm

feartheclaw wrote: »

Hi all

I was involved in a car accident at the weekend that happened like this:
At a fork in the road I needed to get into the left lane to proceed to left of the fork. I indicated to move into the left lane and was clipped by a car coming from behind also taking left fork. I applied brakes but road was wet and couldn't avoid crashing into car in front. (It was an old woman who apparently had also been run into by a bus last week). The other car was an Aston Martin. Everything looked fine when I checked my mirrors to go left but I can't be sure what speed the AM was doing. Because to was already in the lane do I have to accept responsibility?

Thanks
ftc

An old woman in an Aston Martin. I see.....

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 5:30pm

skibum wrote: »

Before you indicated to move into the left lane did you check your mirrors to see if it was safe to move into left lane?

Yes, I checked but thought I would have enough time/space to make the move left..
Does anyone know what the situation in now with insurance - will they both claim from my insurance? And how will this affect my premium? I have a step back provision in the policy?

Thanks again

ftc

corktina · 03-03-2015 5:32pm

ah well,if she had been run into by a bus, it must be her fault

Heroditas · 03-03-2015 5:32pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

An old woman in an Aston Martin. I see.....

Not how I read it. There were three cars involved. his car, the AM and the old lady in front.

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 5:32pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

An old woman in an Aston Martin. I see.....

Ha, no, the old woman was in the other car...

barryoneill50 · 03-03-2015 5:33pm

3 cars?

corktina · 03-03-2015 5:35pm

3 cars...his, the one that he pulled in front of that ran into him as a result and the one he ran into because he couldn't stop.

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 5:35pm

barryoneill50 wrote: »

3 cars?

Yes. Me, the AM that clipped me and the car I rear-ended..

Kevin McCloud · 03-03-2015 5:37pm

Are ye still at the scene of the accident waiting for the guards?

MarkAnthony · 03-03-2015 5:39pm

Well, you certainly have to be given points for style.

By the way one of the few AMs driven in Dublin is frequently parked in the four courts when I'm there. If you've hit a SC's Aston I'd let your insurance deal with it!

Excellent thread, best of luck OP, no one hurt? Then have a giggle about it.

Heroditas · 03-03-2015 5:48pm

The AM must have been going at a decent enough speed if you then hit the car in front.
Either that or the car in front was stationary?
Sounds an interesting one and you might not necessarily be 100% to blame***

***I'm not a solicitor by the way and am only guessing!!!!!

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 5:49pm

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Well, you certainly have to be given points for style.

By the way one of the few AMs driven in Dublin is frequently parked in the four courts when I'm there. If you've hit a SC's Aston I'd let your insurance deal with it!

Excellent thread, best of luck OP, no one hurt? Then have a giggle about it.

No one hurt. Minor damage. Small crack on the wing of the AM though will probably cost more than the damage done to both sides of my car...

Supergurrier · 03-03-2015 5:52pm

Sounds like AM undertook you at speed, you may have a case OP

challengemaster · 03-03-2015 6:12pm

Supergurrier wrote: »

Sounds like AM undertook you at speed, you may have a case OP

Depends entirely on the road. AM may already have been in lane for the left fork, when the OP pulled in front of it. Definitely sounds like he was too close to the car in front.

And there's no hope in hell a tip from a wing mirror forced the OP into the car in front.

corktina · 03-03-2015 7:20pm

if he was in the left lane and indicating his intention to turn left, he is permitted to undertake I believe. It's one of the few exceptions.

challengemaster · 03-03-2015 7:30pm

corktina wrote: »

if he was in the left lane and indicating his intention to turn left, he is permitted to undertake I believe. It's one of the few exceptions.

(5) A driver may only overtake on the left—

( a ) where the driver of the vehicle about to be overtaken has signalled an intention to turn to the right and the driver of the overtaking vehicle intends, after overtaking, to go straight ahead or to turn to the left,
( b ) where the driver of the overtaking vehicle intends, after overtaking, to turn left at the next road junction and has signalled this intention,
( c ) in slow moving traffic, when vehicles in the traffic lane on the driver's right are moving more slowly than the overtaking vehicle.

If it happened at the fork though, I'm not sure if it could be considered an overtake (on the left), as the AM would technically be on a different road?

corktina · 03-03-2015 8:25pm

well, if he's on different road, it's Ok on that ground surely

e92335i · 03-03-2015 8:40pm

OP google map us the location of this accident.

feartheclaw wrote: »

I indicated to move into the left lane and was clipped by a car coming from behind also taking left fork. I applied brakes but road was wet and couldn't avoid crashing into car in front.

So you went into the car that was taking the right side of the fork?

feartheclaw wrote: »

No one hurt. Minor damage. Small crack on the wing of the AM

Where on the AM wing was the damage?
Where on your car is damaged from the AM?

challengemaster · 03-03-2015 8:42pm

corktina wrote: »

well, if he's on different road, it's Ok on that ground surely

My point is - it wouldn't be considered an overtake by the AM, so yes it's perfectly fine. It'd probably be perceived that the OP joined the other lane/road without giving due care to traffic already in that lane.

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 9:34pm

e92335i wrote: »

OP google map us the location of this accident.

So you went into the car that was taking the right side of the fork?

Where on the AM wing was the damage?
Where on your car is damaged from the AM?

That's right. AM wing damaged over front wheel. Same with my car and my mirror was hit

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 9:39pm

e92335i wrote: »

OP google map us the location of this accident.

So you went into the car that was taking the right side of the fork?

Where on the AM wing was the damage?
Where on your car is damaged from the AM?

It wont let me post a URL but it was approaching the fork in Harolds Cross in Dublin if that helps

feartheclaw · 03-03-2015 9:52pm

Yes looks about right...

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