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BBC Two HD [Split]

  • 28-02-2015 8:22am
    #1
    reboot
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    I have also noticed BBC2 NI does not broadcast in HD, on terrestrial, or Sky, even though companies that supply the programmes have to shoot in HD.? Guess this is required for archive purposes,but means added expense for the crews involved.


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  • #2
    icdg
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    Presumably it would be in case they got a network airing. There isn't much regional programming on BBC Two apart from sport. At one stage it looked like the BBC Two nations were going to be scrapped but the threat has receded - I think when the BBC realised it would mean the Nations having to give up most of their sports rights (the Pro 12 being the big one).


  • #3
    SRB
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    [quote="icdg;94482825" There isn't much regional programming on BBC Two apart from sport[/quote]

    BBC2 NI carry different programming all week, they have Irish Language and Ulster Scots programming to show as well as sport.....


  • #4
    Digifriendly
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    SRB wrote: »
    BBC2 NI carry different programming all week, they have Irish Language and Ulster Scots programming to show as well as sport.....

    Not all week. A lot of the programming is the national BBC 2 schedule.


  • #5
    SRB
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    Digifriendly wrote: »
    Not all week. A lot of the programming is the national BBC 2 schedule.
    Looking at the EPG, for the next 5 days, they are running a different schedule from NW at some stage. Yes, a lot of the programmes are the same, but not all.


  • #6
    reboot
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    Digifriendly wrote: »
    Not all week. A lot of the programming is the national BBC 2 schedule.

    I suspect when people set their favourite HD menu, they install BBC2 HD network,for nice pictures,not realizing they may miss local opt out series. One going at the moment on Monday evenings on the Mournes this week. Language issues apart,I think they get the programmes at half price?


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  • #7
    Elmo
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    reboot wrote: »
    I think they get the programmes at half price?

    Local opt outs?


  • #8
    reboot
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Local opt outs?

    Ulster Scots and Irish language programmes?


  • #9
    Elmo
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    reboot wrote: »
    Ulster Scots and Irish language programmes?

    Why would they get them half price?


  • #10
    reboot
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Why would they get them half price?

    I believe the programmes are subsidised, by goverment? Can try to find out detail figures if your interested and if they will be supplied.? I suppose the monies go towards reducing the cost to the programme makers who appear to be largely independent companies. Does it mean there are less opt out slots for in house productions,and other questions?


  • #11
    SRB
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    Heading way off topic here, might be better to start this discussion on it's own thread!


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  • #12
    reboot
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    SRB wrote: »
    Heading way off topic here, might be better to start this discussion on it's own thread!

    You are quite right,although you mentioned language first.I have zero interest in Rugby,and have less interest in starting another thread. Thanks,


  • #13
    Elmo
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    reboot wrote: »
    I believe the programmes are subsidised, by goverment? Can try to find out detail figures if your interested and if they will be supplied.? I suppose the monies go towards reducing the cost to the programme makers who appear to be largely independent companies. Does it mean there are less opt out slots for in house productions,and other questions?

    Suppose they get ILFB funding and the ulster scot equalivant but they still cost the same to produce as any other programme even English language ones supported by RTÉ, BAI or IFB e.g. getaways


  • #14
    icdg
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    SRB wrote: »
    Heading way off topic here, might be better to start this discussion on it's own thread!

    I was thinking the same - thread split

    One consequence of there being no BBC Two NI HD, of course, is that platforms that operate "HD swapping" (Sky and UPC Horizon) are not allowed to HD swap BBC Two NI.


  • #15
    reboot
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Suppose they get ILFB funding and the ulster scot equalivant but they still cost the same to produce as any other programme even English language ones supported by RTÉ, BAI or IFB e.g. getaways

    Just to wrap this up and poss go off thread again, finally, I am told the Language progrmmes get 75% subsidy,costing BBC2 NI, (SD) only25%.Cheap programmes? At the poss disadvantage of other programmes being made. Don,t get me wrong they are fine programmes,well shot,(One Academy nominated Cameraman). Should be in HD?


  • #16
    Elmo
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    reboot wrote: »
    Just to wrap this up and poss go off thread again, finally, I am told the Language progrmmes get 75% subsidy,costing BBC2 NI, (SD) only25%.Cheap programmes? At the poss disadvantage of other programmes being made. Don,t get me wrong they are fine programmes,well shot,(One Academy nominated Cameraman). Should be in HD?

    Not really when you consider that English language programmes also receive funding from other sources as I pointed out in my previous post.


  • #17
    SRB
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    If they have no local HD platform for 2, not a lot they can do, never thought to check, but wonder are the iPlayer versions HD?


  • #18
    reboot
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Suppose they get ILFB funding and the ulster scot equalivant but they still cost the same to produce as any other programme even English language ones supported by RTÉ, BAI or IFB e.g. getaways

    I would have thought the majority of BBC NI programmes are commissioned by the Brodcaster,

    and not subsidised? but maybe I,m wrong.


  • #19
    Elmo
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    reboot wrote: »
    I would have thought the majority of BBC NI programmes are commissioned by the Brodcaster,

    and not subsidised? but maybe I,m wrong.

    Most are commissioned by the broadcasters, if looking for Sound and Vision funding they start to be commissioned by the BAI as well as the broadcaster, as each broadcaster will put forward a range of programmes for such funding. As such the BAI don't have to deal with as many proposals as the programmes have already been through a commissioning process. I imagine that is the same for other funding. BAI subsidies can range from 10% up to 90% of the total cost not just for Irish Language programming.

    Co-pros will get funding from a range of sources I imagine The Fall got some EU funding, some funding from RTÉ and so on. Though that is an example of the BBC wanting to reach out to the regions, so the majority of the funding possible came from the BBC as a whole, with some from BBC NI.


  • #20
    reboot
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Most are commissioned by the broadcasters, if looking for Sound and Vision funding they start to be commissioned by the BAI as well as the broadcaster, as each broadcaster will put forward a range of programmes for such funding. As such the BAI don't have to deal with as many proposals as the programmes have already been through a commissioning process. I imagine that is the same for other funding. BAI subsidies can range from 10% up to 90% of the total cost not just for Irish Language programming.

    Co-pros will get funding from a range of sources I imagine The Fall got some EU funding, some funding from RTÉ and so on. Though that is an example of the BBC wanting to reach out to the regions, so the majority of the funding possible came from the BBC as a whole, with some from BBC NI.

    Thanks for clearing that up.


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