can a full time employee be treated less favourably than pary time

CraftySue

Hi, hoping someone can help with a query I have. Can a full time worker be treated less favourably than a comparable part time employee -in terms of been able to apply for promotion, transfers, holidays etc

Victor

That's a complicated question, because typically there are more criteria at play than whether the staff are full- or part-time.

It is generally good to treat staff on their merits, which will include education / training, experience, length of service, availability, etc. Many employers will, for example be much more willing to give their part-time staff time off at exam time.

An employer will need to be careful of the Employment Equality Acts, etc.

nifheorais

CraftySue wrote: »

Hi, hoping someone can help with a query I have. Can a full time worker be treated less favourably than a comparable part time employee -in terms of been able to apply for promotion, transfers, holidays etc

I am asking the same question and I am not getting any answers!
I work in Youthreach as a resource Person but am a qualified teacher and we are absolutely treated disgracefully and I am sick of it.we work 37 hours per week run the centre but stand and watch the part time teachers head off on their midterms etc while we run activity weeks etc!

Graham

nifheorais wrote: »

I am asking the same question and I am not getting any answers!
I work in Youthreach as a resource Person but am a qualified teacher and we are absolutely treated disgracefully and I am sick of it.we work 37 hours per week run the centre but stand and watch the part time teachers head off on their midterms etc while we run activity weeks etc!

Were you aware of the terms of your contract when you started the job?

Do you know the terms of the p/t contracts?

amen

I work in Youthreach as a resource Person

part time teachers head off

You are employed as a resource Person. The fact that you have the same qualification as someone who is employed in a different role has no bearing on job.

nifheorais

amen wrote: »

You are employed as a resource Person. The fact that you have the same qualification as someone who is employed in a different role has no bearing on job.

I'm sure it must if you ere doing the same work..teaching 20 hours weekly but then spending another 15 hours admin .

nifheorais

Graham wrote: »

Were you aware of the terms of your contract when you started the job?

Do you know the terms of the p/t contracts?

Twenty six years ago I was glad to be handed a resource persons contract...the job has evolved so much since but the contract is basically the same.We taught Numeracy and Literacy and there was no exam system in place at that time.

The p/t contracts (common basic scale) are exactly the same as contracts in mainstream.
In recent years ETBs are employing teachers but giving them prorata Resource Contracts.In effect they are changing the contracts from that of CBS p/t to pro rata Resource. The teacher must now teach and do admin for less money and shorter holidays etc than the part time CBS teacher!....value for Money!

CraftySue

nifheorais, I'm that same as you, resource person. When I was employed, I believed it was teaching duties, and admin work relevant to teaching. It states teaching duties in my contract, and my subjects. What I did not realise, was that it was not recognised as teaching, (even though we were inspected under teaching and learning by the department of education). therefore I cannot transfer within etb to other teaching positions, or if I do move to another teaching position in mainstream, I have to effectively take a pay cut, as the teaching is not recognised for incremental purposes.
The union say it's not comparable, as a full time teacher teachers 22 hours, and we teach 20, but is it comparable to part time teachers, who maintain the same rights as full time teachers I.e increments, ability to correct, transfer opportunities.

thickhead

nifheorais wrote:

I am asking the same question and I am not getting any answers! I work in Youthreach as a resource Person but am a qualified teacher and we are absolutely treated disgracefully and I am sick of it.we work 37 hours per week run the centre but stand and watch the part time teachers head off on their midterms etc while we run activity weeks etc!

you work in youthreach therefore your opinion means 0.

Pat Mustard

Mod:

Not very helpful, thickhead, and there is no attempt at legal discussion in your post. Please don't post in this thread again.

The_Minister

Sorta awkward that I do Employment Law and don't know this off the top of my head.

There is an Act (Protection of Employees (Part-Time Work) Act 2001) protecting Part-Time Workers from being treated less favourably than Full-Time Workers - I don't know if the protections can be reversed (it's Sunday and I can't be bothered checking) but that might have something in it?

It so rarely arises in real life that I've never come across it.