Why do people who know the least shout the loudest

blacklilly

Anyone?

Just had a guy onto me and he was irate because I told him that what he had asked me to do was not my responsibility.

He was rough as f*ck and he launched into a mind numbing loud tirade and made threats to me etc.

In the end to shut him up I did what he wanted, even though I shouldn't have. I'm annoyed at myself for doing so:(

Supergurrier

What did you have to do ?

blacklilly

Supergurrier wrote: »

What did you have to do ?

Nothing bad, just something that I've basically no remit over.

mynamejeff

1 , grow a spine

2. tell him to fcuk off

3. tell him not to come back

4. Have a coffee and feel validated

5. get back to work

fedor.2.

Worked didn't it

blacklilly

mynamejeff wrote: »

1 , grow a spine

2. tell him to fcuk off

3. tell him not to come back

4. Have a coffee and feel validated

5. get back to work

If I told someone to f*ck off, I'd soon find myself in the dole queue

bodice ripper

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN AT ALL.

Valetta

It distracts from the fact that you haven't a clue about anything chocolate related.

Thespoofer

The loudest cow always gives the least milk.

blacklilly

stop shouting please

bodice ripper

blacklilly wrote: »

stop shouting please

WHAT? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER VALETTA.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Empty vessels and all that..

mynamejeff

blacklilly wrote: »

If I told someone to f*ck off, I'd soon find myself in the dole queue

we ****ing whisper it then , that way the scallywag wont be able to prove it

Timberrrrrrrr

Generic Dreadhead

blacklilly wrote: »

In the end to shut him up I did what he wanted,

Because of this......

COYVB

blacklilly wrote: »

Just had a guy onto me and he was irate because I told him that what he had asked me to do was not my responsibility.

Did you use those specific words, "Not my responsibility"? Because that'd be a pretty infuriating thing to hear from someone, and there are far better ways to say it that are less likely to cause conflict

Plazaman

If you could do the job, why not just do it in the first place instead of wasting your time in a shouting match. OK it's not in your remit, but chances are you're not going to have to do it for every customer.

Don't be one of those grouches that just grunt at people while doing the bare minimum. If you done it without question you might have felt good about doing a good deed rather than feel sh1tty about extra work.

blacklilly

Plazaman wrote: »

If you could do the job, why not just do it in the first place instead of wasting your time in a shouting match. OK it's not in your remit, but chances are you're not going to have to do it for every customer.

Don't be one of those grouches that just grunt at people while doing the bare minimum. If you done it without question you might have felt good about doing a good deed rather than feel sh1tty about extra work.

Hardly fair to make the assumption that I am one of those "grouches". I go above and beyond my role all the time. I have zero way of enforcing what he wanted me to do.

Birneybau

mynamejeff wrote: »

1 , grow a spine

2. tell him to fcuk off

3. tell him not to come back

4. Have a coffee and feel validated

5. get back to work

5. Get fired.

blacklilly

COYVB wrote: »

Did you use those specific words, "Not my responsibility"? Because that'd be a pretty infuriating thing to hear from someone, and there are far better ways to say it that are less likely to cause conflict

No I explained the issue at hand, it is actually 100% his responsibility

padd b1975

Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

mynamejeff

Birneybau wrote: »

5. Get fired.

Im so lad i work in a place where i can tell some one to **** off nearly every day :D:D

blacklilly

blacklilly wrote: »

No I explained the issue at hand, it is actually 100% his responsibility

I hate when people think if they demand it often enough, aggressively enough and loudly enough that you'll do their job for them.

COYVB

blacklilly wrote: »

No I explained the issue at hand, it is actually 100% his responsibility

Oh, he wasn't a customer or anything? He was a co-worker? F him then

Eugene Norman

blacklilly wrote: »

If I told someone to f*ck off, I'd soon find myself in the dole queue

Do this guy can shout at you to do something but you can't tell him to get lost? That's a crazy place to work.

Buona Fortuna

And I thought this thread was referring to AH.

seamus

blacklilly wrote: »

In the end to shut him up I did what he wanted, even though I shouldn't have. I'm annoyed at myself for doing so:(

Bullies get away with shouting at people because they've consistently learned throughout life that if they shout, other people get nervous and will do things to try and stop them shouting.

The most effective thing you can do is not react at all. Don't even talk to them. Just silence. Shouting into the void is very disarming, and they'll either go on a pointless rant (let them) or immediately stop and start trying to explain themselves more calmly.

Let the bully shout away and do nothing. If you're face-to-face, then just sit there with a blank expression and once they've stopped shouting, continue on as if they had said nothing.
If it's on a phone, then just go completely silent.

While it seems counter-intuitive, feigning complete calm and not even slightly reacting when someone is shouting is the easiest way to get them to calm down. Getting angry or upset will cause them to become angrier.

PizzamanIRL

They don't know that they know the least.

castletownman

I have won so many radio phone-in debates because I refuse to hang up the line

lertsnim

blacklilly wrote: »

Anyone?

Just had a guy onto me and he was irate because I told him that what he had asked me to do was not my responsibility.

He was rough as f*ck and he launched into a mind numbing loud tirade and made threats to me etc.

In the end to shut him up I did what he wanted, even though I shouldn't have. I'm annoyed at myself for doing so:(

He got you to do what he wanted so that's why he was shouting at you.

Teyla Emmagan

I am wondering that myself listening to these 3 little dicks on the bus talking VERY LOUDLY on the bus in their American accents about what happened in school today.

mynamejeff

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

I am wondering that myself listening to these 3 little dicks on the bus talking VERY LOUDLY on the bus in their American accents about what happened in school today.

start taking notes , i bet they shut up when you ask them how to spell thier friend tashkents second name

Gongoozler

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Do this guy can shout at you to do something but you can't tell him to get lost? That's a crazy place to work.

The public sector!

bodhrandude

My mate had a similar saying to the OP's. He or She who has nothing to say will say it loud and long

blacklilly

COYVB wrote: »

Oh, he wasn't a customer or anything? He was a co-worker? F him then

No, He's not a co-worker but it's difficult to explain it fully without telling you my job, which I'm not going to do.

bb1234567

mynamejeff wrote: »

1 , grow a spine

2. tell him to fcuk off

3. tell him not to come back

4. Have a coffee and feel validated

5. get back to work

You've never had a job have you

DeadHand

Gongoozler wrote: »

The public sector!

If she was in the public sector she could have hit him with a cricket bat and still not get fired.

Damn, the situation would not have arouse anyway unless she did his crossword or interrupted him while he was trawling through donedeal.

blacklilly

I just received an apology from him by email. I'm glad he realised his attitude/behaviour was completely out of hand.

TheShockmaster

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” - Charles Bukowski

Birneybau

mynamejeff wrote: »

Im so lad i work in a place where i can tell some one to **** off nearly every day :D:D

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

blacklilly wrote: »

No, He's not a co-worker but it's difficult to explain it fully without telling you my job, which I'm not going to do.

Ah, you're a pimp.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

OP I hope you realise how much you might be hurting the feelings of those who know the least but shout the loudest.

Up to now they have managed to cover over knowing less than everyone by shouting very loud. The loudest in fact. Now their cover's blown.

They have been cruelly and publicly exposed for what they are. And that has to hurt.

blacklilly

Birneybau wrote: »

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?



Ah, you're a pimp.

I wouldn't mind being a pimp

biko

blacklilly wrote: »

I just received an apology from him by email. I'm glad he realised his attitude/behaviour was completely out of hand.

Tell him you already reported him to HR, hilarity may ensue.

ToddyDoody

blacklilly wrote: »

Anyone?

Just had a guy onto me and he was irate because I told him that what he had asked me to do was not my responsibility.

He was rough as f*ck and he launched into a mind numbing loud tirade and made threats to me etc.

In the end to shut him up I did what he wanted, even though I shouldn't have. I'm annoyed at myself for doing so:(

Dublin women, usually from the nicer parts, have traditionally been the ones screaming at me for some reason or other.

Why? In my case because I've insulted them or something. I suppose its a way of dealing with what you don't understand.

Aidric

TheShockmaster wrote: »

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” - Charles Bukowski

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain

Calibos

TheShockmaster wrote: »

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” - Charles Bukowski

Prefer Bertrand Russels:

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt.

It boils down to the intelligent knowing what they know and don't know whereas the studid don't know what they don't know

5rtytry56

Valetta wrote: »

It distracts from the fact that you haven't a clue about anything chocolate related.

Loudness is commonly used in the practice of the The Twinkie Defense