Indoor oil boiler

Mien

have a firebird oil boiler for twenty years now giving a lot of trouble. Can anyone advise me on the best replacement model for a bungalow with eleven rads and the suppliers in the cork area please.

Dtp1979

Mien wrote: »

have a firebird oil boiler for twenty years now giving a lot of trouble. Can anyone advise me on the best replacement model for a bungalow with eleven rads and the suppliers in the cork area please.

An outdoor grant vortex

jimf

Mien wrote: »

have a firebird oil boiler for twenty years now giving a lot of trouble. Can anyone advise me on the best replacement model for a bungalow with eleven rads and the suppliers in the cork area please.

what kind of issues are you having

corkgsxr

Dtp1979 wrote: »

An outdoor grant vortex

+1

You'd want to be very stuck to put in a indoor oil boiler

agusta

I have an indoor grant oil boiler.Once maintained and serviced correctly an indoor boiler has its advantages too.i have no issues with my boiler to say it should be moved outside

jimf

agusta wrote: »

I have an indoor grant oil boiler.Once maintained and serviced correctly an indoor boiler has its advantages too.i have no issues with my boiler to say it should be moved outside

who you get to service it for you agusta :p

DGOBS

More safety benefits with an outdoor module IMHO

cranefly

Mien wrote: »

have a firebird oil boiler for twenty years now giving a lot of trouble. Can anyone advise me on the best replacement model for a bungalow with eleven rads and the suppliers in the cork area please.

I would go for a firebird model again, we have a firebird super q 50/90 indoor oil boiler, 21 years and still going strong, maybe not as efficient as the newer firebird condensing units that are out, but if ours ever gave up the ghost that it is the one i would go for again. Maybe you could give firebird in ballymakeera cork a ring, they might know of qualified installers for you.

Dtp1979

cranefly wrote: »

I would go for a firebird model again, we have a firebird super q 50/90 indoor oil boiler, 21 years and still going strong, maybe not as efficient as the newer firebird condensing units that are out, but if ours ever gave up the ghost that it is the one i would go for again. Maybe you could give firebird in ballymakeera cork a ring, they might know of qualified installers for you.

If you knew anything about condensing oil boilers then you'd know not to go with firebird

corkgsxr

Dtp1979 wrote: »

If you knew anything about condensing oil boilers then you'd know not to go with firebird

Hush will ya you'll cost us regular callouts :pac::pac:

Markcheese

corkgsxr wrote: »

Hush will ya you'll cost us regular callouts :pac::pac:

My dad's had one in for 6 or seven years and it hasn't missed a beat -

Wearb

I would not be so hard on Firebird condensers. A lot of the trouble I see with them is due to bad installs and bad or little maintenance. The ones I have on my patch, that are regularly serviced, give little trouble.

murfitt

Grant indoor condensing boiler. As long as they are setup correctly initially, there's no problem with them. Make sure you have carbon monoxide detector situated close by though.

Dtp1979

murfitt wrote: »

Grant indoor condensing boiler. As long as they are setup correctly initially, there's no problem with them. Make sure you have carbon monoxide detector situated close by though.

And ideally interlocked with the boiler.

murfitt

Dtp1979 wrote: »

And ideally interlocked with the boiler.

Dear God yes... Thanks for pointing that out!!

cranefly

Why do some of you put the grant vortex condensing indoor boiler ahead of the firebird indoor condensing boiler. In the short to medium term i will no doubt be in the market for this type of boiler, at this point i would rather go with the firebird, but i would consider the grant as an alternative.

murfitt

cranefly wrote: »

Why do some of you put the grant vortex condensing indoor boiler ahead of the firebird indoor condensing boiler. In the short to medium term i will no doubt be in the market for this type of boiler, at this point i would rather go with the firebird, but i would consider the grant as an alternative.

When firebird designed their new range, silverpack etc, they put the burner at the top on the front. They can be problematic as a result. I have on personally, but I much prefer the grant range- they give no problems.

Dtp1979

Plus the steel. A 35kw firebird is about 2 stone lighter than a 26kw grant.

murfitt

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Plus the steel. A 35kw firebird is about 2 stone lighter than a 26kw grant.

Yes. The baffles in the Firebird are more susceptible to warping. They are too thin. Warmflow boilers are even worse again!

cranefly

Thanks for that advice guys, it is good to know peoples experience with these things, when the time comes to change boilers the grant vortex seems like a good choice. lets hope firebird can rectify these problems or at least make them easier to install correctly, as i admire a piece of machinery that has been going over 20 years with no problems, somehow i doubt many things made today will last as long, the term " planned obsolescence " comes to mind.

agusta

cranefly wrote: »

Thanks for that advice guys, it is good to know peoples experience with these things, when the time comes to change boilers the grant vortex seems like a good choice. lets hope firebird can rectify these problems or at least make them easier to install correctly, as i admire a piece of machinery that has been going over 20 years with no problems, somehow i doubt many things made today will last as long, the term " planned obsolescence " comes to mind.

Both the firebird and grant boilers both use riello burners.The boilers today are alot more efficient.A boiler is really only as good as the installation and commisioning first day as well as regular services.In my opinion The problem with the firebird enviromax is that the design of the boiler causes excessive temperatures in the boiler chamber that can lead to to the baffles warping and they can be a harder to set up.As far as i can see the grant vortex has no issues.