New Spraying Regulations

red_diesel

Do these new regulations apply across the board? I do a small bit of spraying every year - mainly docs and buttercup. From what I can see, I now need to complete a Teagasc course and will need my sprayer "NCT'd" in the not so distant future.
Am I correct in assuming the regulations apply to all farmers once you operate a boom of more than 30 metres?

Zr105

red_diesel wrote: »

Do these new regulations apply across the board? I do a small bit of spraying every year - mainly docs and buttercup. From what I can see, I now need to complete a Teagasc course and will need my sprayer "NCT'd" in the not so distant future.
Am I correct in assuming the regulations apply to all farmers once you operate a boom of more than 30 metres?

More than 3meters and yep that's pretty much the case, there's a course for knapsack spraying aswell!

Have to have the course done, and be registered by October this year, and the sprayer needs to be tested by nov '16 which will last untill 2020 and then will need to be tested again

red_diesel

Zr105 wrote: »

More than 3meters and yep that's pretty much the case, there's a course for knapsack spraying aswell!

Have to have the course done, and be registered by October this year, and the sprayer needs to be tested by nov '16 which will last untill 2020 and then will need to be tested again

OOp's little typo there, I meant to say 3 metres of course!
I guess I'll have to just do the course so. The sprayer I have should be good. Its one of those cheapo Eastern European ones. Got it last year but its a right good job.

mhackett102

Its not in place just yet but it is recommended that you do the 2-day course as soon as possible. As far as I know, its going to be in place at the end of this year.
If you dont do it, I think you can still buy 1 litre Gallup or Roundup (or its equivelant) but you cannot buy any other larger sizes unless you are on the register.
I still have to do the course myself, as I sell the spray at work, but its a ridicolous idea in my opinion and just seems as a huge money racket. It will be very very hard to track the usage of sprays that farmers and gardeners use.

red_diesel

Anyone got a link to the course? I'm looking on tegasc.ie but can't see it.

WestportCFE

red_diesel wrote: »

Anyone got a link to the course? I'm looking on tegasc.ie but can't see it.

We do one in Westport College of further education starting on Saturday 14 March, and running on the 21st and 28th March. 098 25241. There are other ones running nationally. I don't think Teagasc run them.

red_diesel

I found this earlier thread on the topic which might be of interest http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057333618&page=3

C0N0R

WestportCFE wrote: »

We do one in Westport College of further education starting on Saturday 14 March, and running on the 21st and 28th March. 098 25241. There are other ones running nationally. I don't think Teagasc run them.

Cost??

WestportCFE

C0N0R wrote: »

Cost??

€200 plus €20 for exam if you have no medical card. There are only 4 places left. This is the third class we have ran.

C0N0R

WestportCFE wrote: »

€200 plus €20 for exam if you have no medical card. There are only 4 places left. This is the third class we have ran.

It's just over the three Saturdays aye? What kind of hours involved?

WestportCFE

C0N0R wrote: »

It's just over the three Saturdays aye? What kind of hours involved?

2 full Saturday's and around an hour for the exam on the last day.

Greengrass1

Dad was in neighbours yard other day another neighbor drives in second biggest tillage operstor in wex. He's running spraying courses in his yard and was looking for more to fill up next run.
Dad said it to him about me doing it.
No way would he hear of it

Bullocks

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Dad was in neighbours yard other day another neighbor drives in second biggest tillage operstor in wex. He's running spraying courses in his yard and was looking for more to fill up next run.
Dad said it to him about me doing it.
No way would he hear of it

Why not ?

Greengrass1

Bullocks wrote: »

Why not ?

Just his attitude dad says. Drove into neighbours yard looking for lads to fill course dad offered me and he didn't say yeah was kind of like ah your only dairy you dont need it

td5man

Had the serial number capacity and boom width of the sprayer all taken at my last farm inspection.

Bullocks

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Just his attitude dad says. Drove into neighbours yard looking for lads to fill course dad offered me and he didn't say yeah was kind of like ah your only dairy you dont need it

Hate attitudes like that

C0N0R

Is the course a requirement for pesticides herbicides or what? Anything I seem to read only makes mention of pesticides.

Never mind I've managed to answer my own question, pesticides covers herbicides and fungicides etc etc

AntrimGlens

I did the practical part of mine last saturday at home with our own sprayer, was useful to get the sprayer calibrated and just check output against driving speed and pump pressure, but certainly wouldn't just pay the fee for the privilege of that. The assessor was telling me of two other fellas on the course who he went to and one of them is a contractor and the output of two of his nozzles was exactly half that of the other nozzles on the sprayer. Only putting out 0.6 of a litre compared to 1.2 per minute.
Anyway I passed.:)

Blackgrass

AntrimGlens wrote: »

I did the practical part of mine last saturday at home with our own sprayer, was useful to get the sprayer calibrated and just check output against driving speed and pump pressure, but certainly wouldn't just pay the fee for the privilege of that. The assessor was telling me of two other fellas on the course who he went to and one of them is a contractor and the output of two of his nozzles was exactly half that of the other nozzles on the sprayer. Only putting out 0.6 of a litre compared to 1.2 per minute.
Anyway I passed.:)

Pays to walk round and test with a jug every now and again presume blocked nozzel/line?
Ceramic tipped nozzles help to stop the opening going the other way also and wearing out faster.

Bigduke

What if you get a contractor to buy product and do the work?

C0N0R

Bigduke wrote: »

What if you get a contractor to buy product and do the work?

From what I know you can buy the product yourself and get contractor to spray it or get him to buy and spray and you get a docket from him for all.

Did day one of the course today in ballyjamesduff and next Wednesday finish it off. Handy enough and a sound lad taking it to helps.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Kerry FRS are doing a Knapsack course next month, 11th and 12th of May, 9.30 to 3 pm in Castleisland, if anybody is interested just give them a call.

case5130

WestportCFE wrote: »

We do one in Westport College of further education starting on Saturday 14 March, and running on the 21st and 28th March. 098 25241. There are other ones running nationally. I don't think Teagasc run them.

Is there any more running on Westport

C0N0R

case5130 wrote: »

Is there any more running on Westport

If you look on frs training website they have them in claremorris

case5130

C0N0R wrote: »

If you look on frs training website they have them in claremorris

Westport be handy for days off wrk and such

Thanks tho will look incase nothing happing

Green farmer

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Kerry FRS are doing a Knapsack course next month, 11th and 12th of May, 9.30 to 3 pm in Castleisland, if anybody is interested just give them a call.

A bit confused by this new sprayer regulations. I have a little 5 litre sprayer, that cost me €10 in lidl. I spot spray nettles and thistles here and there. Do I need to do a course for this ?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Green farmer wrote: »

A bit confused by this new sprayer regulations. I have a little 5 litre sprayer, that cost me €10 in lidl. I spot spray nettles and thistles here and there. Do I need to do a course for this ?

You can buy small quantities of spray from shops for spot spraying small areas around your house/garden without the course.

If you are using a couple of liters to spot spray under wire, around yard etc, you will need the course and the identifier number that you get when qualified to buy the spray from your supplier.

You will also have to keep a record of sprays used around the farm and where you sprayed in case of a cross compliance inspection.

That's my understanding of it anyway.

jfh

Resurrecting an old thread but we're near the deadline.
Many have this done?
Anyone know how much spray one can buy without the course?

Capercaillie

jfh wrote: »

Resurrecting an old thread but we're near the deadline.
Many have this done?
Anyone know how much spray one can buy without the course?

i bought 5 litres of Roundup last week. I just use it with knapsack spayer.

jfh

Capercaillie wrote: »

i bought 5 litres of Roundup last week. I just use it with knapsack spayer.

Well it hasn't come in to effect yet so presumably you can buy without any bother.
Wonder could you buy that in the new year?

Capercaillie

jfh wrote: »

Well it hasn't come in to effect yet so presumably you can buy without any bother.
Wonder could you buy that in the new year?

Never knew the deadline had not passed yet. Know a lad who works in Co-op, will just have to get him to buy it for me.

monkeynuz

Capercaillie wrote: »

Never knew the deadline had not passed yet. Know a lad who works in Co-op, will just have to get him to buy it for me.

Technically he won't be able to buy it unless he has a professional user number.

kowtow

I didn't think there was any buying restriction. . Only on using?

jfh

kowtow wrote: »

I didn't think there was any buying restriction. . Only on using?

Have not done it myself but according to the paper, you get a designated number linked to pps in order to buy spray.
I'm sure there's a few here that have it done & would give better information

jfh

kowtow wrote: »

I didn't think there was any buying restriction. . Only on using?

Actually seems you're right, farmer can buy but not spray
😊

monkeynuz

jfh wrote: »

Actually seems you're right, farmer can buy but not spray
😊

For the time being farmers with a herd number can still buy spray but that will be phased out and everyone will need to have done the course, 50% of the guys on the course I did were small scale livestock farmers.