qltt study group ?

studygroupqltt

Hi all,

I plan to sit the qltt exams in june.

Just wondering...has anyone sat these?
How did they find them ? time wise? preparation etc?

I qualified in New York and am not familiar with system here.

Would be very interested in setting up a study group ...even online whatever most practical.

SillyLawyer

I'm preparing right now for the October/November sitting. Being a California attorney, the preparation certainly is much more time-consuming than I had anticipated.

For materials, I pretty much ordered the recommended textbooks listed on the syllabus. That was a dissatisfying decision. Irish legal textbooks are not similar to American legal textbooks, which consist of extensive excerpts from key cases punctuated by discussion questions or instructive passages. Indeed, I had always used the terms "textbook" and "casebook" quite interchangeably during law school. Instead, Irish legal textbooks are written much more like commentaries in that they cite to case law but do not provide the judgment texts. The facts and a brief description of the holding of some cases might occasionally come out, but that is not the same as having access to the case law as such. Seemingly, only texts with the word "casebook" actually in the title provide satisfactory case excerpts.

Texts I am using:
Irish Land Law, Wylie, 5th Edition - DENSE, written as a commentary. No excerpts, and the cases for many concepts are so old that they are not readily available online.

Casebook on the Irish Law of Torts, McMahon & Binchy, 3rd Edition - Very good, provides full texts or extensive excerpts of key, up-to-date tort judgments. For that reason, I am primarily studying from this book, and not from the Law of Torts, by McMachon & Binchy, which is essentially a commentary.

Contract Law in Ireland, Clark, 7th Edition - Very well written. Though written as a commentary, the tone of presentation is very clear and is pleasantly casual. Still, I wish that judgment texts were provided.

Solicitors Accounts - I ordered the manual from OUP. Seems to be good enough.

J.M. Kelly: The Irish Constitution, Hogan & Whyte, 4th Edition - Fairly dense, in the style of a commentary, but with frequent excerpts of key judgments. "Book brief" style notes are provided in the margins, which are of some use. Of the non-casebook textbooks, this might be my favourite.

EU Law, Craig & De Búrca, 5th Edition - I haven't yet begun studying this text. Having thumbed through it, I have the impression that it is written in a way that a non-law student would readily understand the text. Case excerpts are short, often a few paragraphs, but frequently provided.

I would gladly take recommendations for Probate, Taxation, Company Law, as I have no texts for those subjects. I presume that the chapters in Irish Land Law pertaining to Succession will be of assistance to the Probate exam, but I would gladly see that confirmed.

studygroupqltt

Hi sillylawyer
I am at the beginning of my study.
Thanks for your message.

I am thinking of doing Constitutional and Criminal, Contract and Tort
and Eu Law. I have studied these before. I would recommend for the above exams FE1 preparatory materials
The other exams I would be very unsure of where to begin.
It would be great to keep in contact as we prepare on this journey!!!

CalbArred

I am finishing up my QLTT Summer of 2016, since I'd rather not extend my certificate of eligibility.

I have three days of testing left.
I have the FE1 materials for Constitutional and Criminal Law, UOP materials for Taxation, Probate, and Conveyancing.
Not sure what to do about Land Law, as there seems to be no UOP book or FE1 prep material for this.

SarunasLee

Are u doing any exams for June 2016? Anyone in Dublin to put our thoughts together? Thanks

CalbArred

I'll be in Dublin starting on June 11th, with my first exam on the 14th. I'd be happy to go over some notes.