Does my frame look to small

funnyclub

Hey guys let me know if you think my bike looks to small for me. It didn't look as extreme before my bike fit but since the bike fit the saddle and bars were raised.
Starting to worry the frame is too small.

My issue is my legs are quite long but torso isn't as long.

Let me know what you thint.

endacl

Fix your link.

quozl

Are you (reasonably) comfortable?
Presumably they checked that there was enough seat post left in the seat-tube during the fit? I'm sure they did.

Both those caveats said, the bike looks good

lennymc

doesnt look too bad to me. I would rotate your bars slightly so they are level tho.

funnyclub

lennymc wrote: »

doesnt look too bad to me. I would rotate your bars slightly so they are level tho.

Rotate downwards?

petethedrummer

From that angle it looks like the kind of seat to bar drop the pros have. Plus you have a fair amount of headset spacers. Now I don't like a slammed stem but there's a happy medium.

Unless you're very flexible, I'd vote that it's too small.

lennymc

funnyclub wrote: »

Rotate downwards?

yeah - your hods are pointing slightly upwards. Maybe that is to accomodate your short torso.

i guess it depends on what kind of fit you want. I have found the bike fit on competitive cyclist to be good, and it gives you three options ranging from quite aggressive to quite relaxed for measuring bike size. Maybe have a look at that and see what they suggest and how it measures (excuse the pun) up to your current bike geometry.

Lumen

I agree with Pete. Big drop + maxed out spacers = too small.

How long is your stem?

Chips Lovell

Even if you hadn't said it, I would have judged that frame belonging to someone with long legs and short torso.

If you went a size up, you'd get a taller headtube, meaning you could ditch some of the headset spacers, but you'd need an even shorter stem than the (shortish looking) one you currently have. I'd stick with what you have.

petethedrummer

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

If you went a size up, you'd get a taller headtube, meaning you could ditch some of the headset spacers, but you'd need an even shorter stem than the (shortish looking) one you currently have.

I dunno, with less of a drop to the bars the OP may be able to get his forearms arms more parallel to the ground while in the drops (provided they're not already parallel), eliminating the need for a shorter stem.

The Vroomen's links here explain what I mean. http://inrng.com/2013/01/cycling-position-change/

funnyclub

Too be honest I think that pic taken at the angle it is makes the seat height look bigger here's another Ive just taken.
Also the bike fit is setup to a relaxed setup I could drop the bars if I wanted a more aggressive setup.

Stem is 110

quozl

If you consider that to be a relaxed setup then I don't think there's any problem with that frame size for you.

Brian?

funnyclub wrote: »

Too be honest I think that pic taken at the angle it is makes the seat height look bigger here's another Ive just taken.
Also the bike fit is setup to a relaxed setup I could drop the bars if I wanted a more aggressive setup.

Stem is 110

Looks fine to me.

el tel

Sure take a picture from above and it'll look grand!

funnyclub

el tel wrote: »

Sure take a picture from above and it'll look grand!

Haha will do ;-)

el tel

If the bike is set up for you and is comfortable, I wouldn't worry about the frame size and how it appears. It looks like you've invested a lot of money, so I wouldn't rush to change anything for appearances' sake.

What height are you anyway and what size is the bike?

funnyclub

el tel wrote: »

If the bike is set up for you and is comfortable, I wouldn't worry about the frame size and how it appears. It looks like you've invested a lot of money, so I wouldn't rush to change anything for appearances' sake.

What height are you anyway and what size is the bike?

I'm 6ft 2" and the bike is an XL in this model. Top tube is just over 56

ratracer

If you had a bikefit done and the bike is comfortable for you, then it's grand. However, I had a Planet X frame (Large) and had a bikefit done on it. The bike was perfectly comfortable, but in my head it looked too small for me, and I eventuaslly changed the frame for a larger one.

If you're not happy with it and can't live with it, change it.

niceonetom

It does indeed look too small but if you've had a fit done and found a position that I assume works for you then the problem is basically aesthetic, right?

I don't think you've bought the wrong size bike so much as you've bought one that's the wrong shape for your proportions:

http://www.thompson.be/website/nederlands/images/geometrie-racesport.pdf

That's reasonably standard racey geometry - not super aggressive but at that end of the spectrum. I like that kind of geometry because the long-and-low position works well with my long back and comparatively stumpy legs. If you're all legs and have a shorter torso you'd probably be better off with one of the increasing number of bikes that have slightly shorter top-tubes and longer head-tubes.

I wouldn't obsess about it though. Just ride it until it's time to upgrade and then buy something with more stack and less reach.

mp31

Nice bike... and the sizing looks fine to me.

However this line in your original post got me wondering if there is anything else that you are worried about more than the looks:

funnyclub wrote: »

Starting to worry the frame is too small.

BTW How did you manage to get to keep another bike behind the sofa whilst training on this one

funnyclub

mp31 wrote: »

Nice bike... and the sizing looks fine to me.

However this line in your original post got me wondering if there is anything else that you are worried about more than the looks:



BTW How did you manage to get to keep another bike behind the sofa whilst training on this one

I'm don't train on this one just put it on the turbo to take the picture.

ratracer

funnyclub wrote: »

I'm don't train on this one just put it on the turbo to take the picture.

I find this a great way to not wear out any parts too

funnyclub

ratracer wrote: »

I find this a great way to not wear out any parts too

Haha I mean it's not used on turbo ;-)

paulgs

funnyclub wrote:

Hey guys let me know if you think my bike looks to small for me. It didn't look as extreme before my bike fit but since the bike fit the saddle and bars were raised. Starting to worry the frame is too small.

funnyclub wrote:

My issue is my legs are quite long but torso isn't as long.

funnyclub wrote:

Let me know what you thint.

yes

disco1

It's looks at its max.....as mentioned your spacers on stem are high yet you have a serious race drop from saddle to bars....I would not like to do a 200 km cycle on this..not what you wanted to hear....sell the frame only and get next size up....I'm sure you asked cos in your heart you knew it was already.
You might be ok to race on it though at a push if your comfortable enough on it.
Ken.

Boskowski

Just came through the frontpage sorry not trolling just thought it was funny. Cos it kinda reads like 'does my arse look big in this?' Which is impossible to tell unless you add yourself to the picture.

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Boskowski wrote: »

Just came through the frontpage sorry not trolling just thought it was funny. Cos it kinda reads like 'does my arse look big in this?' Which is impossible to tell unless you add yourself to the picture.

Yes you need to be on the bike to make a proper judgement with left foot facing the camera in the 6 and 12 o clock position.

funnyclub

Trent Attractive Beanbag wrote: »

Yes you need to be on the bike to make a proper judgement with left foot facing the camera in the 6 and 12 o clock position.

How's this?

Lumen

That's interesting. You're quite upright given the amount of drop, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, depends what you want/need. I'm guessing that if you wanted a more aggressive position you'd need more reach and then a larger frame would make sense.

How's the handling?

Raam

^^^^
You need a haircut. Those dreds are getting in your way.

Brian?

funnyclub wrote: »

How's this?

You're quite upright. I'd take some spacers out from under the stem, but that's only if it's comfortable to do so.

Raam

For comparison...

I know pros are different, but his position is way more extreme than yours, so probably you are fine.

funnyclub

Brian? wrote: »

You're quite upright. I'd take some spacers out from under the stem, but that's only if it's comfortable to do so.

Ya its setup more for comfort. I suppose if I was to drop the stem slightly it wouldn't look too bad then.

quozl

It's really hard to tell from the photo but I think your stem is on so that its in the down angle of the two options. I'm not sure what the correct term for it is, but typically a stem will be something like 6 (7, or whatever) degrees and by flipping it you can either have it pointing down X degrees or up X degrees.

If you just don't like the look of all the spacers under your stem AND if the stem is in the downward orientation then you could flip it and move some spacers from below. You'll end up with almost exactly the same position but with less spacers below the stem.

Here's a calculator to see the differences http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx

If your stem is already pointing upwards then ignore all the above

laraghrider

I've a similar situation to you. I'm 185cm and most sizing guides tell me to go for a 58 or so. However my torso and arm lengths i find the most comfortable to be a ballpark 55-56TT with a 110 stem. With this in mind my current setups are 55 frames.

Now the can also differ pending on the frame, a 55 TCR is not the same as a standard 55. A sloping TT can skew things a little, that said your one looks fairly flat. If I was on that bike I'd feel a little upright and so I'd slam the stem a bit. All in all there is no I'm 188cm therefore my bike side should be 60cm. Whatever feels most comfortable and what you can sit on for a long spell. Just look at Cavendish to get an idea of a bike that looks way too small...

funnyclub

quozl wrote: »

It's really hard to tell from the photo but I think your stem is on so that its in the down angle of the two options. I'm not sure what the correct term for it is, but typically a stem will be something like 6 (7, or whatever) degrees and by flipping it you can either have it pointing down X degrees or up X degrees.

If you just don't like the look of all the spacers under your stem AND if the stem is in the downward orientation then you could flip it and move some spacers from below. You'll end up with almost exactly the same position but with less spacers below the stem.

Here's a calculator to see the differences http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx

If your stem is already pointing upwards then ignore all the above

I'm get what ya mean mate, and yes it is on the downward setup. I might give that a try alright.

Lumen

funnyclub wrote: »

I'm get what ya mean mate, and yes it is on the downward setup. I might give that a try alright.

Flipping up and lowering the stem won't make any difference. You'll just end up with more steerer showing (OK, you'll technically get improvements in front end stiffness, but they'll be small).

I wouldn't be second-guessing the bike fit now. You paid for it!

quozl

Lumen wrote: »

Flipping up and lowering the stem won't make any difference. You'll just end up with more steerer showing (OK, you'll technically get improvements in front end stiffness, but they'll be small).

I wouldn't be second-guessing the bike fit now. You paid for it!

It's purely for aesthetics as I'm getting the impression the OP doesn't like having all those spacers under his stem.

No other reason.

petethedrummer

quozl wrote: »

It's purely for aesthetics as I'm getting the impression the OP doesn't like having all those spacers under his stem.

But which is the bigger sin, too many spacers or a flipped stem?

Lusk_Doyle

laraghrider wrote: »

I've a similar situation to you. I'm 185cm and most sizing guides tell me to go for a 58 or so. However my torso and arm lengths i find the most comfortable to be a ballpark 55-56TT with a 110 stem. With this in mind my current setups are 55 frames.

Now the can also differ pending on the frame, a 55 TCR is not the same as a standard 55. A sloping TT can skew things a little, that said your one looks fairly flat. If I was on that bike I'd feel a little upright and so I'd slam the stem a bit. All in all there is no I'm 188cm therefore my bike side should be 60cm. Whatever feels most comfortable and what you can sit on for a long spell. Just look at Cavendish to get an idea of a bike that looks way too small...

That sizing guide must be off. I'm 189cm and I ride a 58 frame. A 60 is way too big for me.