Whatever happened to hard labour

henryporter

So this f*cktard escapes Portlaoise prison by means of a 'carefully crafted plan', injuring 2 people along the way, then heads off on a mini rampage up to Belfast, to stick up a chemists and have a few pints at a classy pub.

Would all if this have been averted had the little sociopathic sh1thead been too exhausted form breaking rocks all day like back in the good old days? Same goes for the rest of them in prison (or should it be called holiday camp). Time to bring back a bit of penal law for these hard core recidivists - make it less of an incentive to go around annoying folks.

Lest any do-gooders suggest that these poor criminals need nurturing, think of what it was like for the employees of that pharmacy in Belfast yesterday with a psycho knacker pointing a gun in your face looking for beer money.

seamus

Yeah, fresh air, exercise and weight lifting. That's sure to demotivate them and destroy their confidence!

Heavy manual labour is known to increase testosterone levels, which in fact makes prisoners more violent and dangerous.

Light labour like knitting and pottery would be far more effective.

salmocab

He should be denied any future visits to the hospital now and let him suffer with his diabetes in a cell.

alchemist33

salmocab wrote: »

He should be denied any future visits to the hospital now and let him suffer with his diabetes in a cell.

While being fed only chocolate and Lucozade.

Nodin

henryporter wrote: »

So this f*cktard escapes Portlaoise prison by means of a 'carefully crafted plan', injuring 2 people along the way, then heads off on a mini rampage up to Belfast, to stick up a chemists and have a few pints at a classy pub.

Would all if this have been averted had the little sociopathic sh1thead been too exhausted form breaking rocks all day like back in the good old days? Same goes for the rest of them in prison (or should it be called holiday camp). Time to bring back a bit of penal law for these hard core recidivists - make it less of an incentive to go around annoying folks.

Lest any do-gooders suggest that these poor criminals need nurturing, think of what it was like for the employees of that pharmacy in Belfast yesterday with a psycho knacker pointing a gun in your face looking for beer money.

1 - Yes

2 - He's not "little"

3 - It was a knife

mikom

henryporter wrote: »

Whatever happened to hard labour

The epidural.

Rabbo

seamus wrote: »

Light labour like knitting and pottery would be far more effective.

Until he stabs the poor warden with a knitting needle

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seamus wrote: »

Yeah, fresh air, exercise and weight lifting. That's sure to demotivate them and destroy their confidence!

Heavy manual labour is known to increase testosterone levels, which in fact makes prisoners more violent and dangerous.

Light labour like knitting and pottery would be far more effective.

No chance. I've seen Demolition Man, you think you're programming them to stitch pretty doilies when instead they come out all kung fu, kicking ass in the future and typing really quickly at ATM machines. And don't get me started on the three seashells.

darkpagandeath

In before HR violation Thanks EU/Brussels or who ever came up with HR like the general public have for Prisoners of the Serious kind.

catallus

seamus wrote: »

Heavy manual labour is known to increase testosterone levels, which in fact makes prisoners more violent and dangerous.

Ya wha?

Aubrie Millions Keyhole

Aubrie Millions Keyhole wrote: »

No chance. I've seen Demolition Man, you think you're programming them to stitch pretty doilies when instead they come out all kung fu, kicking ass in the future and typing really quickly at ATM machines. And don't get me started on the three seashells.

What's your boggle?

4zn76tysfajdxp

Deleted User wrote: »

What's your boggle?

Whatever. If you wanna go around eating rat burgers in the sewers with Dennis Leary, be my guest. I'm thinking of the bigger picture here.

My name is URL

seamus wrote: »

Yeah, fresh air, exercise and weight lifting. That's sure to demotivate them and destroy their confidence!

Heavy manual labour is known to increase testosterone levels, which in fact makes prisoners more violent and dangerous.

Light labour like knitting and pottery would be far more effective.

So is endlessly working out inside of prison cells and then again while on rec time, which is what most prisoners tend to do anyway because of the lack of alternatives.

At least with some sort of manual labor system there'd be an alternative for those that simply want to bulk up and do strength exercises all day, every day.

Nodin

darkpagandeath wrote: »

In before HR violation Thanks EU/Brussels or who ever came up with HR like the general public have for Prisoners of the Serious kind.

Wha?

tomwaterford

My name is URL wrote: »

So is endlessly working out inside of prison cells and then again while on rec time, which is what most prisoners tend to do anyway because of the lack of alternatives.

At least with some sort of manual labor system there'd be an alternative for those that simply want to bulk up and do strength exercises all day, every day.

surly of you want a worthwhile alternative would be education/having a good liberary??

catallus

Obviously the recent rise of democracy has led to this infernal fad of locking men up in cages.

The elites cannot bear the prospect of proper penal punishment when their power persists due to the subsistence of their underlings.

Nodin

tomwaterford wrote: »

surly of you want a worthwhile alternative would be education/having a good liberary??

Wheres the torture porn in that, for jaysus sake.....

Desolation Of Smug

Classy pub?? It was a Wetherspoons...

My name is URL

tomwaterford wrote: »

surly of you want a worthwhile alternative would be education/having a good liberary??

Not necessarily. Some people would sooner learn practical and physical skills.. things they can use upon release.

There aren't many people who want to employ poets etc straight out of prison.

And you spelled a load of words wrong too..

Tony EH

henryporter wrote: »

Whatever happened to hard labour

There isn't enough labour (hard or otherwise) to go around the law abiding population.

seamus

catallus wrote: »

Ya wha?

Regular exercise, especially exercise which involves muscle strain like weight lifting or hard labour, is known causes an increase in testosterone. Testosterone and exercise are inextricably linked, hence athletes doping themselves with it to get a performance boost.

There is a long list of studies linking aggression and criminality to testosterone, though admittedly there's no definitive link, it's a complex soup.

That said, there are plusses too; exercise will improve one's overall general sense of well-being, attention span, motivation, and 500 other things.

The problem with prisoners is that they're not necessarily criminals because they're depressed or unmotivated. Like the guy mentioned in the OP, many are just straight up sociopaths, and hard labour will do little except make them healthier, stronger, more confident and more motivated. Then you send them out into the world.