Are any wireless alarm systems any good?

NIMAN

As a regular visitor to this subforum, I have noticed that wireless alarms you would buy from the hardware retailers, from the likes of Yale, Friedland or Fortress, are generally regarded as being a waste of money.

Admittedly they do appear to be cheal and cheerful.

However, I was wondering if more expensive wireless ones from the likes of HKC or Visonic are viewed any different?

altor

NIMAN wrote: »

As a regular visitor to this subforum, I have noticed that wireless alarms you would buy from the hardware retailers, from the likes of Yale, Friedland or Fortress, are generally regarded as being a waste of money.

Admittedly they do appear to be cheal and cheerful.

However, I was wondering if more expensive wireless ones from the likes of HKC or Visonic are viewed any different?

They are diy alarms and do not have to conform to any standard.
As installers we must only install systems which comply to the EN50131 standard.

I know a user on here had past experience with a yale alarm which once two sensors where tripped at the same time cancelled out each other. That would not be a good situation to be in in terms of protecting your home.

NIMAN

altor wrote: »

They are diy alarms and do not have to conform to any standard.
As installers we must only install systems which comply to the EN50131 standard.

I know a user on here had past experience with a yale alarm which once two sensors where tripped at the same time cancelled out each other. That would not be a good situation to be in in terms of protecting your home.

So if a wireless alarm conforms to that standard, does it make it worth buying?

altor

NIMAN wrote: »

So if a wireless alarm conforms to that standard, does it make it worth buying?

Over a non standard alarm then yes.

NIMAN

I take it the better brands like Visonic and HKC conform to this standard?

altor

NIMAN wrote: »

I take it the better brands like Visonic and HKC conform to this standard?

Yes, they and many others do conform to this standard.

KoolKid

A few of the good ones would be
Visonic
HKC
GSD
Siemens
Risco
GE/UTC

2012paddy2012

altor wrote: »

Over a non standard alarm then yes.

Altor sorry to hop in here !! Can you use hkc system to turn on heating?! Have no phone line though .. Sim digi in ok for events... Can you use wifi through panel to connect to heating thks paddy

altor

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Altor sorry to hop in here !! Can you use hkc system to turn on heating?! Have no phone line though .. Sim digi in ok for events... Can you use wifi through panel to connect to heating thks paddy

Which HKC systems have you installed?

KoolKid

Most systems will let you do that one way or another. The best way would be via IP and apps/browser.

2012paddy2012

altor wrote: »

Which HKC systems have you installed?

Thks Altor it's 1070 I think ....you did a little addition to it before ! Long time back tho... I presume a cable will have to be run from control panel (danfoss) in kitchen to panel in attic ? GSM - Q ?

altor

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Thks Altor it's 1070 I think ....you did a little addition to it before ! Long time back tho... I presume a cable will have to be run from control panel (danfoss) in kitchen to panel in attic ? GSM - Q ?

That is correct. The GSM-Q can control the two outputs on the board for heat/lights. It just switches the mains through a relay using the outputs.

2012paddy2012

altor wrote: »

That is correct. The GSM-Q can control the two outputs on the board for heat/lights. It just switches the mains through a relay using the outputs.

Ok thks so I will see if I can get a cable from kitchen to panel. . Long run ! If I can do that then - I will need to buy a gsm q I presume . . And a relay for fitting to heat control unit to allow it to switch on - on text via gsm q -yeah ? Sounds - Very expensive already lol - I was looking at a smart system that will work without panel - eg relay controlled at heat control operated via wifi only - replacing sockets with wifi controlled sockets also - do you fit these " smart" type systems to? I really only wanna turn on heat on time and maybe a light now and then thks

altor

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Ok thks so I will see if I can get a cable from kitchen to panel. . Long run ! If I can do that then - I will need to buy a gsm q I presume . . And a relay for fitting to heat control unit to allow it to switch on - on text via gsm q -yeah ? Sounds - Very expensive already lol - I was looking at a smart system that will work without panel - eg relay controlled at heat control operated via wifi only - replacing sockets with wifi controlled sockets also - do you fit these " smart" type systems to? I really only wanna turn on heat on time and maybe a light now and then thks

My apologies, I assumed you had a GSM-Q installed when you said Sim digi in ok for events.
I would look at just installing a controller that uses wifi at the heater controls than put it through the alarm as it should work out cheaper plus save the need for the cable to be run. I would ask this question in the plumbing and heating section. I would be surprised if none of the lads over there has not got a cheap solution to accommodate this.

2012paddy2012

altor wrote: »

My apologies, I assumed you had a GSM-Q installed when you said Sim digi in ok for events.
I would look at just installing a controller that uses wifi at the heater controls than put it through the alarm as it should work out cheaper plus save the need for the cable to be run. I would ask this question in the plumbing and heating section. I would be surprised if none of the lads over there has not got a cheap solution to accommodate this.

Ah thks Altor most helpful / I will try that forum then cheers paddy

altor

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Ah thks Altor most helpful / I will try that forum then cheers paddy

No probs Paddy