Can the owner put them on the street

lulu1

I am posting for a friend.

Her and her partner moved into a house which was owned by someone who is now living in America.
The renting of the house is being looked after by a neighbour.
My friend pays 80e a week into the neighbours bank account
Since my friend has moved in about 10 mts they have been asking for a tenensey agreement
but was always fobbed off with this that and the other
Now today the friend has received a text message from the person that owns the house saying they have to be out of the house in 14 days

Ps Before they moved into this house we did advise them against it and it was nothing but hassle since they moved in

Can anyone advise

Penny Tration

They have to be given 28 days notice.

RecordStraight

Tell your friend to lodge a complaint with the PRTB. Guaranteed that the landlord is not registered and will get in a heap of bother.

dudara

As they have been there for 10 months, I would say that a Part 4 tenancy is in effect. This means that they should receive 5 weeks / 35 days notice to depart (as they are there over 6 months but under 1 year).

As the owner is living in America, the collection agent (in this case the neighbour) is responsible for deducting tax from the rent and paying it to the Revenue, on behalf of the landlord. See here for more information.

Michael D Not Higgins

Also, since it's Part 4, you must be given a valid reason. The landlord can't just serve notice.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/if_your_landlord_wants_you_to_leave.html
For a tenancy that has lasted between 6 months and 4 years – known as a Part 4 tenancy – the landlord can end it only in the following circumstances:

After 3 years and 6 months
If you do not comply with the obligations of the tenancy
If the property is no longer suited to your needs (for example, if it is overcrowded)
If the landlord intends to sell the property within 3 months
or for the following specific purposes:

If the landlord needs the property for him/herself or for an immediate family member
If the landlord intends to refurbish the property substantially
If the landlord plans to change the business use of the property (for example, convert it to office use)

Mrs OBumble

E80 per week sounds incredibly cheap for a house.

Perhaps the friend was not actually authorised to let the place out at all.

It's possible that the owner may view you as a squatter rather than a tenant
tenan

Did the friend get receipts for the rent they paid?

iguana

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

E80 per week sounds incredibly cheap for a house.

Plenty of houses in less urban parts of the country rent for that kind of money.

The_Conductor

iguana wrote: »

Plenty of houses in less urban parts of the country rent for that kind of money.

It really depends on where the property is.......
I suspect its Donegal- and if its the property I have in mind- open market rent for the area is probably around 500 a month- not 80 a week.......

I am suspicious that the neighbour may have been asked by the owner to keep an eye on the property- and may be letting it on the side........

Lulu1- you do know that your friend is liable for witholding tax on the rent, unless the neighbour is setup as the owner's agent?

There are too many things that scream 'trouble' about this whole situation..........

lulu1

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

E80 per week sounds incredibly cheap for a house.

Perhaps the friend was not actually authorised to let the place out at all.

It's possible that the owner may view you as a squatter rather than a tenant
tenan

Did the friend get receipts for the rent they paid?

yea as far as i know they have got receipts

Mrs OBumble

iguana wrote: »

Plenty of houses in less urban parts of the country rent for that kind of money.

Don't think so: on Daft right now, there are 44 houses in the entire country for between 300-350 per month. Yes, it's a small country - but not that small!

OP, having receipts is good. But even so, if I was your friend I'd be looking to move sooner rather than later. If rents in the area really are that low, then it should be possible to get somewhere quickly.

And re the tax thing: your friend has been paying rent to a neighbour in Ireland, so I would see them as acting as an agent - therefore the 20% with-hold doesn't apply.

ShaShaBear

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Don't think so: on Daft right now, there are 44 houses in the entire country for between 300-350 per month. Yes, it's a small country - but not that small!

I'm in Monaghan and renting a 3-bed semi-detached house with garden for €80 a week. Was living in a house bordering between Culloville and Castleblayney about 2 years ago and it was a 4-bed house (extremely well-furnished and decorated) for €90 a week because of the distance away from town. Perfectly normal prices for smaller houses to rent in Cavan as well.

lulu1

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Don't think so: on Daft right now, there are 44 houses in the entire country for between 300-350 per month. Yes, it's a small country - but not that small!

OP, having receipts is good. But even so, if I was your friend I'd be looking to move sooner rather than later. If rents in the area really are that low, then it should be possible to get somewhere quickly.

And re the tax thing: your friend has been paying rent to a neighbour in Ireland, so I would see them as acting as an agent - therefore the 20% with-hold doesn't apply.

Yes we talked earlier and she said as much as she loves the house and the area she is going to move just as soon as she can if she finds something suitable

hdowney

ShaShaBear wrote: »

I'm in Monaghan and renting a 3-bed semi-detached house with garden for €80 a week. Was living in a house bordering between Culloville and Castleblayney about 2 years ago and it was a 4-bed house (extremely well-furnished and decorated) for €90 a week because of the distance away from town. Perfectly normal prices for smaller houses to rent in Cavan as well.

the house you rented at that price two years ago is highly likely to be un-occupied at the moment, and the house you are renting at that price, well YOU are renting it at that price therefore it isn't AVAILABLE. We are not saying there are not houses priced in that level around the country, we are saying the AVAILABILITY of houses in that price level around the country is lacking.