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Drawings/Plans for Bakery/Retail Shop

  • 14-02-2015 9:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 20


    Hi there,

    Im just about to sign a lease for the next 10 years on a unit that has retail planning.
    I have checked with the local council if i need to change the planning from retail and they say i dont as i will be selling my products and coffee in my shop and its not as such a cafe.

    Anyhow im looking to get design & drawings done for the unit that shows my equipment in the best place possible for the bakery and the retail shop so i can give to the builder to work from.
    I have most of the equipment already and know all the measurements.

    I have contacted some architects already and get the impression from them that they dont want to take on a small task like mine.
    Some never replyed to my emails or calls, and others fobbed me off with over the top prices.

    I would be greatful of your advice and help....
    Many thanks

    SD


Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    Is the unit part of a newly built retail development - if so the management company should have details of architects who worked for other tenants.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Is there a fire cert and DAC for the unit?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 silverdawn


    No its not part of a retail development at all, its an independent stand alone unit


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 silverdawn


    Hi kceire,

    As far as i know there is none of the above certs with the unit, it has been a good number of years since it has had a tenant in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    silverdawn wrote: »
    Hi kceire,

    As far as i know there is none of the above certs with the unit, it has been a good number of years since it has had a tenant in it.

    Then keep your eyes peeled for recently completed works local to you. Start your searches there - i.e. ask those units who they used.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    OP not needing permission for change of use is only the start of list of regs applicable

    - Fire Safety Certificate
    - Disabled Access Certificate
    - BER Certificate (that has to be provided to you by the seller)
    - Safety File - (that has to be provided to you by the seller. What used to be called one time the maintenance file)
    - if you intend your own signfront - that needs planning permision
    - fit out works will need to comply with building control Regulations.
    - fit out works will need to comply with Health Safety and Welfare at Work (Construction) Regulations.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭galwaydude18


    Is your builder a shopfitter? If not he won't get a good result like a shoofiter will who has the knowledge of layouts, what needs to be done etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 silverdawn


    Is your builder a shopfitter? If not he won't get a good result like a shoofiter will who has the knowledge of layouts, what needs to be done etc.

    Was thinking using a builder, but now you have me thinking in the line of shopfitter. I have looked at a few online and prob seems the better way to go...


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 silverdawn


    OP not needing permission for change of use is only the start of list of regs applicable

    - Fire Safety Certificate
    - Disabled Access Certificate
    - BER Certificate (that has to be provided to you by the seller)
    - Safety File - (that has to be provided to you by the seller. What used to be called one time the maintenance file)
    - if you intend your own signfront - that needs planning permision
    - fit out works will need to comply with building control Regulations.
    - fit out works will need to comply with Health Safety and Welfare at Work (Construction) Regulations.


    The best small country in the world to do business

    Yeah i know its a lot of brain melting trying to get up and running...... I never expected it to be easy as then everyone would be at it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭galwaydude18


    silverdawn wrote: »
    Was thinking using a builder, but now you have me thinking in the line of shopfitter. I have looked at a few online and prob seems the better way to go...

    I'm a shopfitter that works all over the country if you want to send me a PM ?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    silverdawn wrote: »
    Hi kceire,

    As far as i know there is none of the above certs with the unit, it has been a good number of years since it has had a tenant in it.

    Double check the fire cert drawings as the occupancy factors and fire load factors may have been with a fixed furniture layout. You need to make sure you are not altering this layout then from that.


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