Wrong tooth pulled

KaaaaaaPOW

How, after multiple xrays can this happen?

And what happens next?

mountai

Don't go back ---- You"ll end up Gummy!!!

Oral Surgeon

KaaaaaaPOW wrote: »

How, after multiple xrays can this happen?

And what happens next?

Op if you want some advice, give us some information....

EoghanIRL

Is this hypothetical or real ? Obviously you are not allowed give legal advice on this website . However if hypothetical and let's say the practitioner removed the wrong tooth you would definitely have a case . It would technically be considered assault seeing as you only gave consent for the correct tooth to be removed and the practitioner has failed in their duty of care. The fact that it was carried out under anaesthetic would make it worse . . Firstly , the cost of getting the mistake fixed would be covered , then emotional damages and finally if it was carried out under anaesthetic then the compensation would be larger again seeing as assault is a criminal offence.

It would depend on different factors obviously but you could hypothetically have a malpractice or negligence case.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

My gut feeling here is that there was pain. X-rays were taken and several teeth could have been the cause. The worst one was removed however the pain remains meaning it was another tooth, not that a perfectly good tooth was removed. Other thing is that the patient has a dry socket after the extraction so the pain is continuing.

I would strongly advise everyone to wait for clarification before jumping to conclusions or winding up the OP.

sleepyheadh

Very easily if you understand the anatomy of the region. . Maybe talk to the dentist jr get a second professional opinion. i wouldn't get any legal or medical advice from boards

davo10

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Is this hypothetical or real ? Obviously you are not allowed give legal advice on this website . However if hypothetical and let's say the practitioner removed the wrong tooth you would definitely have a case . It would technically be considered assault seeing as you only gave consent for the correct tooth to be removed and the practitioner has failed in their duty of care. The fact that it was carried out under anaesthetic would make it worse . . Firstly , the cost of getting the mistake fixed would be covered , then emotional damages and finally if it was carried out under anaesthetic then the compensation would be larger again seeing as assault is a criminal offence.

It would depend on different factors obviously but you could hypothetically have a malpractice or negligence case.

Ah no. Firstly dentists don't take out good teeth except in cases where it is necessary to straighten teeth.

Secondly the dentist examines the teeth to try and determine where the pain is coming from, often patients don't even know themselves which tooth is the sore one. X-rays may be taken but even these may be inconclusive, particularly as Fitz said, when there are multiple potential sources of pain.

Thirdly, if unsure, the dentist will explain to the patient that in their opinion, the pain is most likely coming from the tooth to be extracted. It is amazing how may people conveniently forget that part of the conversation and then claim the wrong tooth was removed.

Fourthly, as stated above, the tooth extracted may not have been the only source of pain or the continuing pain may be post op infection.

Fifthly, most people have anaesthetic when having a tooth out do claiming it is a worse offence because the tooth was numbed is strange and the criminal assault charge is just silly as there is no intent to cause injury, are you saying that the gardai should be called?

KaaaaaaPOW

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

Op if you want some advice, give us some information....

Gemma Steep Desert wrote: »

My gut feeling here is that there was pain. X-rays were taken and several teeth could have been the cause. The worst one was removed however the pain remains meaning it was another tooth, not that a perfectly good tooth was removed. Other thing is that the patient has a dry socket after the extraction so the pain is continuing.

I would strongly advise everyone to wait for clarification before jumping to conclusions or winding up the OP.

davo10 wrote: »

Ah no. Firstly dentists don't take out good teeth except in cases where it is necessary to straighten teeth.

Secondly the dentist examines the teeth to try and determine where the pain is coming from, often patients don't even know themselves which tooth is the sore one. X-rays may be taken but even these may be inconclusive, particularly as Fitz said, when there are multiple potential sources of pain.

Thirdly, if unsure, the dentist will explain to the patient that in their opinion, the pain is most likely coming from the tooth to be extracted. It is amazing how may people conveniently forget that part of the conversation and then claim the wrong tooth was removed.

Fourthly, as stated above, the tooth extracted may not have been the only source of pain or the continuing pain may be post op infection.

Fifthly, most people have anaesthetic when having a tooth out do claiming it is a worse offence because the tooth was numbed is strange and the criminal assault charge is just silly, are you saying that the gardai should be called?

Hi, OK, more info.

It's a relative this happened to.

Their was pain. So off she went, their was two previously filled Teeth beside each other.

She knew the Tooth causing the pain as far as she was concerned, it's a smaller inward facing yoke apparently that had been niggiling for a few days.

Dentist looked, took two X-rays.

Dentist gave the option of a Root Canal or Pull, she went for Pull. Would have been interesting if she had went for Root?!?

When she looked later she was surprised to see the one she thought was the problem still there. She thought for a minute she had blamed the wrong tooth and that the X-rays had shown the next door neighbour to be the problem but when the anesthetic wore off there was the same old niggle.

That's the story as I know it. The Dentist really messed up as far as she's concerned. She's very annoyed now, not like her.

davo10 wrote: »

Thirdly, if unsure, the dentist will explain to the patient that in their opinion, the pain is most likely coming from the tooth to be extracted. It is amazing how may people conveniently forget that part of the conversation and then claim the wrong tooth was removed.

Fourthly, as stated above, the tooth extracted may not have been the only source of pain or the continuing pain may be post op infection.

Yea, hey. The "Thirdly" above there, I've asked twice and it was never mentioned.

She's given it a few days now and it's definitely the wrong tooth out.

I'm not looking for legal/medical advice, just curious what normally happens in these cases.

EoghanIRL

davo10 wrote: »

Ah no. Firstly dentists don't take out good teeth except in cases where it is necessary to straighten teeth.

Secondly the dentist examines the teeth to try and determine where the pain is coming from, often patients don't even know themselves which tooth is the sore one. X-rays may be taken but even these may be inconclusive, particularly as Fitz said, when there are multiple potential sources of pain.

Thirdly, if unsure, the dentist will explain to the patient that in their opinion, the pain is most likely coming from the tooth to be extracted. It is amazing how may people conveniently forget that part of the conversation and then claim the wrong tooth was removed.

Fourthly, as stated above, the tooth extracted may not have been the only source of pain or the continuing pain may be post op infection.

Fifthly, most people have anaesthetic when having a tooth out do claiming it is a worse offence because the tooth was numbed is strange and the criminal assault charge is just silly as there is no intent to cause injury, are you saying that the gardai should be called?

I said hypothetically several times in the post .
As there is lack of info I was only giving a hypothetical answer .

If the dentist was removing a molar due to something like decay and removed the molar on the other side which was perfectly healthy then that is definitely malpractice.

You might think it is silly to consider removing the wrong tooth a criminal offence . In court though if you were sued for the reasons above then it wouldn't be very stupid at all.
It is technically a criminal offence and the payout would be large .

I have spoken to a lawyer who had to represent a dentist who did have the guards called on him. It's not like it doesn't happen .

It depends on many things .. If a dentist removed the wrong wisdom tooth which was going to have to be removed anyway or removed the wrong tooth which was heavily decayed and had to be removed anyway then that would be different .

All the points you make are very valid . All the points you make are representative of any good dentist. Dentists do get removed from registers annually , some for malpractice . Dentisty isn't immune to misconduct .





Most cases though would be settled outside of court . Perhaps with the dentist willing to fix / compensate if it was infact the dentist at fault .

davo10

EoghanIRL wrote: »

I said hypothetically several times in the post .
As there is lack of info I was only giving a hypothetical answer .

If the dentist was removing a molar due to something like decay and removed the molar on the other side which was perfectly healthy then that is definitely malpractice.

You might think it is silly to consider removing the wrong tooth a criminal offence . In court though if you were sued for the reasons above then it wouldn't be very stupid at all.
It is technically a criminal offence and the payout would be large .

I have spoken to a lawyer who had to represent a dentist who did have the guards called on him. It's not like it doesn't happen .

It depends on many things .. If a dentist removed the wrong wisdom tooth which was going to have to be removed anyway or removed the wrong tooth which was heavily decayed and had to be removed anyway then that would be different .

All the points you make are very valid . All the points you make are representative of any good dentist. Dentists do get removed from registers annually , some for malpractice . Dentisty isn't immune

Most cases though would be settled outside of court . Perhaps with the dentist willing to fix / compensate if it was infact the dentist at fault .

No it isn't a criminal offence. A criminal offence implies malice. At worst, after investigating, at worst, it would be negligence. It would take a rare breed of stupid to extract a tooth on the opposite side of where the problem is.

It would not be a criminal offence, it would be a civil issue whereby the plaintiff would be suing for redress. Gaurds may get called, but not for carrying out treatment which is clinically justifiable.

"Hypothetically, technically" and realistically you are mistaken, I assure you that your friend the lawyer is telling you porkies if he told you that the guards were called over a wrong tooth being taken out.

KaaaaaaPOW

davo10 wrote: »

No it isn't a criminal offence. A criminal offence implies malice. At worst, after investigating, at worst, it would be negligence. It would take a rare breed of stupid to extract a tooth on the opposite side of where the problem is.

It would not be a criminal offence, it would be a civil issue whereby the plaintiff would be suing for redress. Gaurds may get called, but not for carrying out treatment which is clinically justifiable.

"Hypothetically, technically" and realistically you are mistaken, I assure you that your friend the lawyer is telling you porkies if he told you that the guards were called over a wrong tooth being taken out.

Yup, google agrees. Medical Negligence.

injuriesboardadvice.com/dentist-taking-out-wrong-tooth/


Wrongful extraction on the rise apparently.

theddu.com/press-centre/press-releases/rise-in-extraction-error-claims-reports-ddu


personalinjuryireland.ie/compensation-for-having-wrong-tooth-extracted/
medicalnegligenceie.com/wrong-tooth-extraction/