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Build for 3d modelling/gaming Questions
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12-02-2015 3:48pm#1So after a very long time of ignoring hardware I've ran into a wall trying to teach myself to use 3DSMax, Unreal Engine and the like because my old gaming laptop just can't hack it. So I want to invest in a new desktop.
1. What is your budget? [~€1200]
2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [3D Modelling/UE4 and programming, some Gaming]
3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [No]
4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [I will probably take the old DVD drive from my ancient Desktop, and use the Monitor from it until I can afford a better one]
5. Do you need a monitor? [Yes... but it can wait.]
5a. If yes, what size do you need. [22' would be nice]
5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080 (I think, it's been a while and it's resting in a different house)] [Yes]
6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Wireless Card/Keyboard]
7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Yes]
8. How can you pay? [Bank Transfer/Visa Debit/Laser]
9. When are you purchasing? [A week or so, no rush, will wait for a good bargain]
10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [Dublin-I am reasonably sure I can build it myself(famous last words...)]
So far I've been looking around on Elara and made a rough list.
FX 8350 4.0GHZ 16MB 125W PIB SKT AM3+ L2 16MB 125W PIB 1 €175.50
RADEON R9 270X 4GB GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI HDMI DP OC DUAL-X BO IN 1 €185.50
Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 Series Red LED Mid-Tower Gaming Case 1 €56.89
M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 ATX SND+GLN+U3 SATA 6GB/S DDR3 1 €79.00
WD Red WD30EFRX - Hard drive - 3 TB - internal - 3.5" - SATA 6Gb/s - buffer: 64 MB - for My Cloud EX2, EX4 1 €113.00
16GB 1600MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM (Kit of 2) HyperX Fury White Series 1 €130.07
Be Quiet! BN183 Pure Power L8 CM Power Supply (730 Watts) 80 Plus Bronze
100eu
(~1000eu so far)
some questions:
1. I notice from the other threads there seems to be bias towards intel processors. Is there some concrete reason intel is plain better these days? .. I went with AMD as they always did me well in the past and I always liked the whole 'more bang for less buck' design philosophy, also were easier to overclock when last I was buying.
2. I notice that German site is recommended over and over, is good ja? what's the deal with their 'discount' proxy site, why/how does ordering through the geizal.de work out better than hardwareversand.de (probably stupid question just I never heard of either before so am hesitant to place a big order there).
3. Cooling: I don't have any clue. Advice?
4. That CPU has 8 cores. Is that overkill for what I want? It still seems a good price, I think last time I bought a PC my 2.x Ghz single core cost twice that much, lol
And finally, an SSD: worth the investment?
Any other advice appreciated too! Cheers
Thanks for your time
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No worries will do, should be doing it around 6 or 8pm or so.
I just wanted some reassurance too geizhal are legit because I couldn't find any reviews/mention of them (they have a wiki page but its in German and the only thing I got from it is they formed mid 2014).
You know how it is when you're blowing a chunk of savings on fancy gadgets, ya don't wanna take chances
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No worries will do, should be doing it around 6 or 8pm or so.
I just wanted some reassurance too geizhal are legit because I couldn't find any reviews/mention of them (they have a wiki page but its in German and the only thing I got from it is they formed mid 2014).
You know how it is when you're blowing a chunk of savings on fancy gadgets, ya don't wanna take chances
Totally get iS oNE of most used sites on here.0 -
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The case doesn't seem to be listed on Geizhal - 'Es gibt derzeit keine Anbieter für diesen Artikel.' (No vendors, even though hardwareversand are selling it for the price I listed
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If I'm doing my checking correctly upgrading to a gtx 970 would cost at least 100 more - I don't think I can take that hit unless there's a really noticeable jump up in quality from the Radeon...?
edit: to clarify obviously I know it will be a bit better, but is the extra GB or whatever worth 100+ more yoyos?0 -
The case doesn't seem to be listed on Geizhal - 'Es gibt derzeit keine Anbieter für diesen Artikel.' (No vendors, even though hardwareversand are selling it for the price I listed)
If I'm doing my checking correctly upgrading to a gtx 970 would cost at least 100 more - I don't think I can take that hit unless there's a really noticeable jump up in quality from the Radeon...?
edit: to clarify obviously I know it will be a bit better, but is the extra GB or whatever worth 100+ more yoyos?
Antec one you have chosen 100.
No if it's too far don't.0 -
Ah yeah, seems the search function on Geizhal.de can be hit and miss or something, it showed up properly that time.
Just transferred the monies to HWVS, exciting times. Now to see if I have the stones to put it together myself after spending all that cash thanks for the list! 0 -
Ah yeah, seems the search function on Geizhal.de can be hit and miss or something, it showed up properly that time.
Just transferred the monies to HWVS, exciting times. Now to see if I have the stones to put it together myself after spending all that cash thanks for the list!
Just by coincidence I've always done most of that hungover. Not advisable. I tend to forget that some of that stuff I'm jamming in saying "come on bitch you know you want it " costs over 300 euro.0 -
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So 3 days now after emailing them for a different GPU I got no response, I called them this evening. The lady on the phone was helpful, and told me she had swapped the part on the order, but it would cost about 12 quid more. I was a bit surprised because it looks like the MSI card replacement is a tenner cheaper than the Gigabyte I originally ordered. The lady said she would ask if they could do something about the price and email me with the response.
Now that I'm home I check my order and see not only has the part not been swapped, but I have no email about it either way. Gonna ring again tomorrow again I guess, yay long distance.
HWVS might be cheap but I don't rate their service at this stage. If I had ordered off someone else I might have paid a few quid more but I'd have my bits by now. ATM I am over a grand in the hole and my order is still in limbo a week+ later. Annoying.
Ouch! I've only ever ordered from HWVS! I used it to order my first PC build. I was only 16,17 at the time so the thing that put me off it most was the bank transfer! So I emailed them over and they explained the process thoroughly and that it was pretty much the norm for Germany. Waiting time on delivery I think was around 10 days. I went for Dabs.ie for my second order just to see the difference in timing as I didnt see much of a price difference! Although I wasnt using HWVS discount site
Let us know how you get on with the build!0 -
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Hey just an update the parts arrived wednesday and put it together grand, havent been able to really take it out for a spin yet because the old dvd drive i was going to use in it is too old for the mobo, and without the mobo drivers the ethernet doesn't seem to want to work. The good news is the graphics card came with a VGA/DVI adaptor so I didn't have to go buying a new monitor just yet.
On the whole I would warn anyone ordering from HWVS that they are absolutely crap at service via email.... they finally got around to answering my ticket for swapping the missing card on wednesday (the same day the delivery arrived, lol) 10 days after I emailed them. It also took them 5 days to email me about why the order was delayed in the first place. Its worth noting because the phone calls I made to get it sorted out cost quite a bit, added bout 20 quid on the phone bill
. A quick look online tells me I'm not the only person a bit annoyed at their slow/non existent responses via email.
I'm not too mad since I still came out on top price wise, just something to be aware of.0
the suspense is killing me 
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