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Irelands oldest drover

  • 11-02-2015 8:28pm
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going



    Brilliant, and 100%right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭tomieen jones


    Gombeen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭KatyMac


    Read in paper recently that a man of 94 just bought a new car. He needed it to bring his neighbours to mass, shopping etc. It was a Mitsubishi and they reckon that he is probably their oldest customer in the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭Sunset V




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Gombeen

    Hed probably say the same about you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    Gombeen
    mf240 wrote: »
    Hed probably say the same about you.

    Tomeen the Gombeen :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭deise08


    All I saw of him on the news was him bate-ing a sheep in the face with his stick when there was no need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    deise08 wrote: »
    All I saw of him on the news was him bate-ing a sheep in the face with his stick when there was no need.
    He was more tipping the ram back with the stick rather beating him back.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 260 ✭✭Jimlh86


    I love stories like the Auld boy with the new Massey! Theirs a man who still loves his job, a lot to be said for it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    I thought my neighbour who's 71 was old last year buying a new holland tractor for €80k. The man with the Massey makes him seem young now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭tomieen jones


    deise08 wrote: »
    All I saw of him on the news was him bate-ing a sheep in the face with his stick when there was no need.
    he was more butting him with the heel of the stick into the face gombeen style


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭agriman27


    All the old farmers are loaded they have their SFP, old age pension and don't have to pay tax :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭smokey-fitz


    agriman27 wrote: »
    All the old farmers are loaded they have their SFP, old age pension and don't have to pay tax :)

    Sure they deserve it. They had a alot more hardship in the last 50 years than you or me will have in the next 50..


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 260 ✭✭Jimlh86


    Sure they deserve it. They had a alot more hardship in the last 50 years than you or me will have in the next 50..

    Too right any man still standing at that stage at sucklers/contracting deserves all the money he's getting and more. He worked hard for every cent


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 260 ✭✭Jimlh86


    Sure they deserve it. They had a alot more hardship in the last 50 years than you or me will have in the next 50..

    Too right any man still standing at that stage at sucklers/contracting deserves all the money he's getting and more. He worked hard for every cent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    I'd say 20 euro a week keeps him goin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Feckthis


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    I'd say 20 euro a week keeps him goin!

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't under stand this crack atal I see farmers wouldn't buy their children a magnum ice cream because it's too dear "y'all get a mr freeze instead. But yet every couple of years buys a new tractor 😳. The mind boggles. Some farmers a just completely stingy.

    Noting against the ould man here fair play to him I say works hard for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    I have a few hundred bales of silage sitting in my yard and offered them for sale to two local farmers for 16 euros a bale.
    They weren't bothered. Those same 2 farmers bid each other to 200 euro an acre for a 6 acre field of mine on con acre no grazing no maps . The winning farmer dropped the cheque up the other night .
    He will get around hundred bales off it.

    It cost him 1200 to rent it off me.
    It will cost him 800 to fertilise it.
    700 to a contractor.
    500 for plastic.
    That's at least €3200 to get 100 bales.
    He could have given me 1600 quid for 100 bales.
    Farmers are not driven by financial sense that's one thing for sure .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Feckthis wrote: »
    I see farmers wouldn't buy their children a magnum ice cream because it's too dear "y'all get a mr freeze instead. But yet every couple of years buys a new tractor 😳. The mind boggles.

    I think there's something about you being able to claim a mr. Freeze against tax but not a magnum. So blame the taxman!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    Feckthis wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't under stand this crack atal I see farmers wouldn't buy their children a magnum ice cream because it's too dear "y'all get a mr freeze instead. But yet every couple of years buys a new tractor 😳. The mind boggles. Some farmers a just completely stingy.

    Noting against the ould man here fair play to him I say works hard for it!
    I'll correct you because you are wrong :) magnum bars are fattening and bad for your children ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭agriman27


    Sure they deserve it. They had a alot more hardship in the last 50 years than you or me will have in the next 50..
    Jimlh86 wrote: »
    Too right any man still standing at that stage at sucklers/contracting deserves all the money he's getting and more. He worked hard for every cent

    I'd just like to clarify I never said that I begrudge old farmers, its just a fact some of them were never as well off,but I do think there could be better incentives for farmers to pass on their business to the next generation in this country,sure why would any farmer retire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    20silkcut wrote: »
    I have a few hundred bales of silage sitting in my yard and offered them for sale to two local farmers for 16 euros a bale.
    They weren't bothered. Those same 2 farmers bid each other to 200 euro an acre for a 6 acre field of mine on con acre no grazing no maps . The winning farmer dropped the cheque up the other night .
    He will get around hundred bales off it.

    It cost him 1200 to rent it off me.
    It will cost him 800 to fertilise it.
    700 to a contractor.
    500 for plastic.
    That's at least €3200 to get 100 bales.
    He could have given me 1600 quid for 100 bales.
    Farmers are not driven by financial sense that's one thing for sure .
    A calculater is the devils tool and you 2ill be be condemned to burn 7n hell for eternity if you use one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭smokey-fitz


    agriman27 wrote: »
    I'd just like to clarify I never said that I begrudge old farmers, its just a fact some of them were never as well off,but I do think there could be better incentives for farmers to pass on their business to the next generation in this country,sure why would any farmer retire.

    I didnt take you up as begrudging them, just a smart comment as we all do :D
    I agree with better incentives but with a 25% top up and new entitlements I cant see it getting much better, unless they give tax free incomes for 5 yrs which wouldnt affect half the farmers anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    20silkcut wrote: »
    I have a few hundred bales of silage sitting in my yard and offered them for sale to two local farmers for 16 euros a bale.
    They weren't bothered. Those same 2 farmers bid each other to 200 euro an acre for a 6 acre field of mine on con acre no grazing no maps . The winning farmer dropped the cheque up the other night .
    He will get around hundred bales off it.

    It cost him 1200 to rent it off me.
    It will cost him 800 to fertilise it.
    700 to a contractor.
    500 for plastic.
    That's at least €3200 to get 100 bales.
    He could have given me 1600 quid for 100 bales.
    Farmers are not driven by financial sense that's one thing for sure .

    How much do you make now (NET now, not this gross malarchy) vs how much would you make if you let the entire farm?
    Its tax-free now if you let if for 5 years+

    Plus you'd have a lot more spare time - I dunno if you have an off farm job now, but if you didn't - you could look at getting one if the farm was let.

    Just sayin like... ;)

    Might make more 'financial sense' is all ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    agriman27 wrote: »
    I'd just like to clarify I never said that I begrudge old farmers, its just a fact some of them were never as well off,but I do think there could be better incentives for farmers to pass on their business to the next generation in this country,sure why would any farmer retire.

    I doubt the 85 year old Cavan man will retire any time soon. There's plenty people 15 years younger than him waiting to die in nursing homes. More power to him it's what keeps him going.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    20silkcut wrote: »
    I have a few hundred bales of silage sitting in my yard and offered them for sale to two local farmers for 16 euros a bale.
    They weren't bothered. Those same 2 farmers bid each other to 200 euro an acre for a 6 acre field of mine on con acre no grazing no maps . The winning farmer dropped the cheque up the other night .
    He will get around hundred bales off it.

    It cost him 1200 to rent it off me.
    It will cost him 800 to fertilise it.
    700 to a contractor.
    500 for plastic.
    That's at least €3200 to get 100 bales.
    He could have given me 1600 quid for 100 bales.
    Farmers are not driven by financial sense that's one thing for sure .

    In the same kinda situation with lads looking for fields for bales, lads here claimed I am robbing fellas and they will cop on they are buying weeds at €12/€14 a bale.

    They don't do the sums or just don't care. I go with the latter. They have off farm jobs and are willing to pay big money as they can write off against tax. It's like lads paying crazy money for cattle at the moment, they really don't care what price they are when selling. God bless SFP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭Robson99


    20silkcut wrote: »
    I have a few hundred bales of silage sitting in my yard and offered them for sale to two local farmers for 16 euros a bale.
    They weren't bothered. Those same 2 farmers bid each other to 200 euro an acre for a 6 acre field of mine on con acre no grazing no maps . The winning farmer dropped the cheque up the other night .
    He will get around hundred bales off it.

    It cost him 1200 to rent it off me.
    It will cost him 800 to fertilise it.
    700 to a contractor.
    500 for plastic.
    That's at least €3200 to get 100 bales.
    He could have given me 1600 quid for 100 bales.
    Farmers are not driven by financial sense that's one thing for sure .
    Your cost on the bales is the same as what I would work out cost of them €20.
    One thing I always say on silage is that good quality silage is cheap at €25 per bale but poor quality stuff is dear even if you got it for nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭LivInt20


    agriman27 wrote: »
    All the old farmers are loaded they have their SFP, old age pension and don't have to pay tax :)

    Of course they have to pay tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    LivInt20 wrote: »
    Of course they have to pay tax.
    They also get free TV license ESB phone and free travel and can travel anywhere in the world in the government jet for nothing.
    But sure they would be happy out on the farm piking silage and ****e and that's why they does it ha.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    20silkcut wrote: »
    I have a few hundred bales of silage sitting in my yard and offered them for sale to two local farmers for 16 euros a bale.
    They weren't bothered. Those same 2 farmers bid each other to 200 euro an acre for a 6 acre field of mine on con acre no grazing no maps . The winning farmer dropped the cheque up the other night .
    He will get around hundred bales off it.

    It cost him 1200 to rent it off me.
    It will cost him 800 to fertilise it.
    700 to a contractor.
    500 for plastic.
    That's at least €3200 to get 100 bales.
    He could have given me 1600 quid for 100 bales.
    Farmers are not driven by financial sense that's one thing for sure .

    2 ton of compound at 400 each or 2.5 ton of can on 6 acres:rolleyes: plastic is dear down your way too.


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