advice on lecturing opportunity

positivenote

hi all,
looking for some advice from lecturers in IOTs and Universities. Im currently in an IOT on a Permanent Whole time Contract and have been here for over 10 years, an lecturing opportunity has come up through a vacancy in a related field in a dublin based university. Im from Dublin and commute to the IOT on a daily basis which is located in an adding county. The vacancy in the Univeristy is offering a 'contract of up to 5 years" but the appeal, as well as the commute, is that the contact hours are a lot less than those I'm currently working in the IOT, this would allow me to complete my PhD which I am trying to do part time at the moment.
Im looking for opinions on wether to go for the job in the university and leave the security of a PWT contract in an IOT or stay where I am?
Does the 'contract of up to 5 years' mean what it says or would there be a requirement of the University to offer a CID contract having been employed for a period of 5 years?
any help/advice would be welcomed…
thanks

Geuze

As a lecturer myself, I can't get over the poor spelling, etc. in you post.

Anyway<spelling correction>, I see your point.

Five years there may mean automatic entitlement to a CID. That's a key issue.

Here are a few links that may help:

http://www.asti.ie/pay-and-conditions/non-permanent-teachers/cids-explained/

http://www.ucc.ie/en/rsa/employmentrightsandrepresentation/

Geuze

I found this discussion on the UCC Research Staff association website:



Discussion of CIDs has been to the forefront since the introduction of the Protection of Employees (Fixed Term Work) Act, 2003. If you enter a fixed-term contract of employment on or after 14 July 2003 and are employed on two or more such contracts for four continuous years and if the contract is renewed again after that, then the contract is deemed to be one of indefinite duration. This applies unless the employer has objective grounds for renewing the contract again on a fixed-term basis.

The Unfair Dismissal Acts 1977-2001 contain a provision that aims to ensure that successive temporary contracts are not used to avoid that legislation. Where a fixed-term or specified-purpose contract expires and the individual is re-employed within three months, the employee may be considered in some cases to have continuous service.

Therefore, even where an employer excludes the unfair dismissals legislation in the manner described above, a Rights Commissioner or the Employment Appeals Tribunal will consider whether the use of such contracts was wholly or partly to avoid the employee having the protection of the unfair dismissals legislation. If it is considered that this was the case and the contracts were not separated by more than three months and the job was at least similar, then the case can be dealt with as if there was continuous employment and the employer will be required to justify the dismissal in the normal manner.

The is some confusion in the area of whether the CID contract is the same as a permanent contract. In the case of a Researcher, if the work or funding comes to an end, does the University still have the right the terminate the CID? A recent pertinent case has been taken and won by IFUT against TCD whereby a Researcher with a CID was made redundant on the grounds that the funding for the project had ceased among other arguments. The court found in favour of the claimant and ordered their reinstatement in the College.

(http://www.labourcourt.ie/en/Cases/2012/April/LCR20292.html)

Geuze

More info, this time from a UCD website:

http://www.ucdrsa.org/?page_id=149

Geuze

I can't find much on the IFUT website about CIDs:

http://www.ifut.ie/

trihead

Its good to plan ahead and do research and I suggest you go for the interview.... but from my experience you are very unlikely to get the university position as you don't have a PhD (I know you are studying for one). The amount of research - publications and conferences is also highly important when they make their choice - even if its just for the shortlist for interviews.

Good luck though:)