Canyon Headset Bearing Replacement!

velo.2010

I'm wondering if anyone has changed the headset bearings on their Canyon road bike recently. The top bearing in particular needs replacing on mine. I dropped into CSS this evening and they don't have any bearings to fit Canyon's steerer sizing.

Is there anywhere in Dublin who sell such bearings? Thanks.

Don't know about a Canyon but I stripped my headset (Cube) and broke it down on Friday and cleaned it up a bit, just ordered a few bags of loose bearings on Amazon for a couple of quid......... not sure how much difference that will make (race's seemed a bit rough) but I could only see a complete headset for over €70 which seemed a bit rich..........

Koobcam

velo.2010 wrote: »

I'm wondering if anyone has changed the headset bearings on their Canyon road bike recently. The top bearing in particular needs replacing on mine. I dropped into CSS this evening and they don't have any bearings to fit Canyon's steerer sizing.

Is there anywhere in Dublin who sell such bearings? Thanks.

your best bet is to confirm with Canyon what headset you have and either order a new one from them or one of the German sites like Bikecomponents.de.

GTDolanator

ring or bring bearing to dixons in finglas

velo.2010

Koobcam wrote: »

your best bet is to confirm with Canyon what headset you have and either order a new one from them or one of the German sites like Bikecomponents.de.

Its just the top bearing, headset itself is fine.

GTDolanator wrote: »

ring or bring bearing to dixons in finglas

Yeah, I have the number of a similar place out by Baldonnell. Nothing from Canyon as yet - I'm not paying a fortune for a simple bearing + postage.

Surprised there is no feedback from anyone with a Canyon Roadbike as I would assume that a few guys have had to change the bearings after some years use.

Koobcam

velo.2010 wrote: »

Its just the top bearing, headset itself is fine.



Yeah, I have the number of a similar place out by Baldonnell. Nothing from Canyon as yet - I'm not paying a fortune for a simple bearing + postage.

Surprised there is no feedback from anyone with a Canyon Roadbike as I would assume that a few guys have had to change the bearings after some years use.

I have a couple of Canyons and I find they normally take a day or two to reply to emails, but they usually do respond. There's also a chat section somewhere on their website where you can chat with someone online. I haven't replaced any headset bearings, but have had them send me a couple of small bits that aren't normally listed on their website-they did send me a component for my Aeroad headset actually a couple of weeks back, one of the bits that goes on the fork, but I would imagine they would have the bearing you need. The Acros website might also come in handy, though it's pretty hard to navigate and find the bit you need.

kuro_man

Giant overdrive has the same dimensions - might work

ftgu06

I have done 2 of these in the last two weeks both with the same problem top bearing gone , you will have to get bearings from canyon direct as none of the other brands ie giant , trek , cube will work , hate to say it but u might as well get a spare set as that type of bearing will not last very long

velo.2010

ftgu06 wrote: »

I have done 2 of these in the last two weeks both with the same problem top bearing gone , you will have to get bearings from canyon direct as none of the other brands ie giant , trek , cube will work , hate to say it but u might as well get a spare set as that type of bearing will not last very long

How much did that set you back if you don't mind me asking?

Statler

That's the only thing about Canyons that annoys me, trying to get parts in weird sizes be it stems or headset parts. Headset is made by Acros, Canyon put me onto them last time I needed headset parts, website is http://www.acros.de/PRODUKTE/STEUERSATZ:::3_91.html?language=en

Think I paid €70 for a new headset, communication was a bit of an issue but they delivered quick enough.

ftgu06

got the clients to order the bearings themselves as the price is nuts €60 plus postage , I personally think u should email canyon and tell them about the problem with bearing as canyon probably already know the are going to have a issue with that type of headset , know of one guy on second set of bearings in 4 months the gave him the second set free , if the bearings were cheap it might not b a issue but at that price no bike shop will stock them as clients will think it's the shop that's ripping them off

velo.2010

Thanks lads! I've seen the Acros site too. This is how Canyon do business - bearings, brackets, stems, hangers etc. They know folk have no choice but to come back to them.

They're offline now but I'll chance having a word with them tomorrow. I'm going to ring that place out in Baldonnel (Fox's engineering)- they may have something around. Flu has me fcuked at the moment so there is no rush.

velo.2010

Canyon got back to me last night. They want £104 (97 for headset + 7 postage)to replace the complete headset - they don't sell bearings separate. And according to them, 'a generic set of bearings won't work in this case'. Pretty sure I can find something a lot cheaper!

Statler

velo.2010 wrote: »

Canyon got back to me last night. They want £104 (97 for headset + 7 postage)to replace the complete headset - they don't sell bearings separate. And according to them, 'a generic set of bearings won't work in this case'. Pretty sure I can find something a lot cheaper!

Let us know if you do, that's a great business model they have!

oconnpad

There seems to be a good few of them on the road over last 6 months i noticed so could end up being a widespread problem for people.

Not great by Canyon at all, £107 quid for headset, would it be wrong to assume all there road bikes would have the same headset and bearing sizes?

If they happened to be the same size, if a solution is found it would be good for a lot of people i'd say.

ashleey

How old is your bike?

Even in rough weather and regular bike cleaning by spraying they should last a couple of years at least unless your headset is loose and stuff is getting in and then rattling is wrecking the cartridge seals.

I have found that you need to watch that little star screw and tighten up against the stem quite regularly. Standard style headsets aren't prone to this!

velo.2010

The bike is over 3 years old now, regularly maintained by myself - just stuck a new chain and BB on it! The Acros system that Canyon use may well put more pressure on the top bearing as it acts essentially like an second headset - putting more pressure on that bearing.

The headset, steerer tube size etc. is simply a gimmick so Canyon can continue to charge customers for spares/stems long after purchase of the original bike. Still great value bikes but it would be wise for new buyers to stock up on spares if purchasing in the near future.

Hopefully I can get out tomorrow and visit that place in Baldonnel and see if they have anything spare. Other options include Acros themselves. Their website is hard to navigate but it does appear the whole headset is cheaper than Canyon direct, if indeed they have the exact one I need. I think there's another German retailer that may have spares.... I think, damn flu has me tired out.

Statler

velo.2010 wrote: »

The bike is over 3 years old now, regularly maintained by myself - just stuck a new chain and BB on it! The Acros system that Canyon use may well put more pressure on the top bearing as it acts essentially like an second headset - putting more pressure on that bearing.

The headset, steerer tube size etc. is simply a gimmick so Canyon can continue to charge customers for spares/stems long after purchase of the original bike. Still great value bikes but it would be wise for new buyers to stock up on spares if purchasing in the near future.

Hopefully I can get out tomorrow and visit that place in Baldonnel and see if they have anything spare. Other options include Acros themselves. Their website is hard to navigate but it does appear the whole headset is cheaper than Canyon direct, if indeed they have the exact one I need. I think there's another German retailer that may have spares.... I think, damn flu has me tired out.

I think Giant have started to make steerer tubes with the same size as Canyons, might be worth investigating who they use for headsets.

Dono1975

E Fox is the name of that company in Baldonnel

Engineering Consultant
Adelaide House, Clonlara Rd, Baldonnell Business Park, Baldonnell, Co. Dublin
(01) 469 3500

velo.2010

Dono1975 wrote: »

E Fox is the name of that company in Baldonnel

Engineering Consultant
Adelaide House, Clonlara Rd, Baldonnell Business Park, Baldonnell, Co. Dublin
(01) 469 3500

Thanks. Yeah, one of the lads in Cyclesuperstore gave me the details on Monday when I went in looking for the bearing. He spent an age routing around for one before racking his brain and coming up with the name of the company. Hopefully they may be able to sort me out!

ashleey

If you can get the specific bearing dimensions, I.e 34.9 inside diameter 45 by 45 acb and outside diameter then we could order a job lot as I have at least four friends with canyon bikes.
Fsa spares were awkward to get at first but now it's easy to buy just the cartridge bearings for my other bike (lower bearing gets trashed on a standard headset) as the other headset parts never wear out.

ftgu06

spoke to the canyon guys at the London bike show yesterday and the agreed that the price of the headsets is over the top but u are snookered there is nothing out there in a generic bearing of any type also spoke to the guys in enduro bearings and the are not going going to b doing a bearing of that size anytime soon as the supply most of the bearings to the generic market your search is going to b tough , if u manage to find some please let us know

fatboypee

ftgu06 wrote: »

spoke to the canyon guys at the London bike show yesterday and the agreed that the price of the headsets is over the top but u are snookered there is nothing out there in a generic bearing of any type also spoke to the guys in enduro bearings and the are not going going to b doing a bearing of that size anytime soon as the supply most of the bearings to the generic market your search is going to b tough , if u manage to find some please let us know

Was considering a Canyon Roadlite. Not so sure now..

ashleey

For anyone interested in the bearing dimensions for the Acros Ai-70 headset, I got this from Acros directly:

the dimensions of the cartridge bearings are:

AC3748 = 48 mm x 37 mm x 7 mm
61707 = 35 mm x 44 mm x 5 mm

Welshkev

ashleey wrote: »

For anyone interested in the bearing dimensions for the Acros Ai-70 headset, I got this from Acros directly:

the dimensions of the cartridge bearings are:

AC3748 = 48 mm x 37 mm x 7 mm
61707 = 35 mm x 44 mm x 5 mm

Could I just clarify from anybody who has bought these - there are 2 sets of bearings of different sizes on the bikes: 1 at the top of the headset and a second set further down where the forks enters the frame.
Are the above dimensions for each of those 2 sets of bearings? I've been on to E-fox engineering and they only have the 61707 set.

Also, I noticed Wiggle sell headset bearings, but most seem to be 1 1/8" - am I right in thinking Canyon's need it for 1 1/4"?

Cheers

skerry

Apologies for resurrecting this thread but I was wondering if any of ye got an affordable resolution for replacement bearings on the Acros Ai-70 headset.

I had my Canyon sitting up over the Winter and the headset is a bit stiff now. Not sure if water ingress or what.

I've been in touch with Canyon who only sell the replacement headset and its costing around 65 Euro plus postage. Acros say they have the replacement bearings (upper and lower) but they are charging 60 for just the bearings and 99 for the headset.

So at the moment the cheapest option is to get a replacement headset from Canyon. Seems crazy for the need of a couple of replacement cartridge bearings.

Just wanted to check if anyone here came across a cheaper alternative to get this sorted before I go ahead and get a replacement headset?

harringtonp

Went through the same process with Rose Mr Skerrit a few months back. Easy to find bearing on bearing king once I knew measurements. Details here

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=96591572

skerry

harringtonp wrote: »

Went through the same process with Rose Mr Skerrit a few months back. Easy to find bearing on bearing king once I knew measurements. Details here

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=96591572

Cheers Paul, I found a crowd on Ebay 'kineticbikebearings' that sell the upper and lower bearing for around 35 Euro. Seems about the best I can get on them. Acros are looking for 60 for them which is mad.

Entered the sizes on the link in your thread but no hits. Did they work out expensive at the time? Think I'm going to go with the Ebay option at the moment.

levitronix

velo.2010 wrote: »

Its just the top bearing, headset itself is fine.



Yeah, I have the number of a similar place out by Baldonnell. Nothing from Canyon as yet - I'm not paying a fortune for a simple bearing + postage.

Surprised there is no feedback from anyone with a Canyon Roadbike as I would assume that a few guys have had to change the bearings after some years use.

foxes will help you used them loads of times

Eamonnator

ashleey wrote: »

For anyone interested in the bearing dimensions for the Acros Ai-70 headset, I got this from Acros directly:

the dimensions of the cartridge bearings are:

AC3748 = 48 mm x 37 mm x 7 mm
61707 = 35 mm x 44 mm x 5 mm

I have a Canyon Ultimate CFX.
Can anybody tell me, if these bearings will do my bike?

Welshkev

levitronix wrote: »

foxes will help you used them loads of times

They only have the top set of bearings - they didn't have the bottom set (think it may be due to the fact they are tapered of memory serves)

harringtonp

skerry wrote: »

Cheers Paul, I found a crowd on Ebay 'kineticbikebearings' that sell the upper and lower bearing for around 35 Euro. Seems about the best I can get on them. Acros are looking for 60 for them which is mad.

Entered the sizes on the link in your thread but no hits. Did they work out expensive at the time? Think I'm going to go with the Ebay option at the moment.

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Unknown Soldier

I've had to buy a headset from Canyon today and it's "HS ACRS Ai-70F 1 1/4-1,5 w/Spacer bkSteuersätze / Headsets" @ 69.95

I'm assuming that's everything from top to bottom.

Better be...

I'll be really, really upset if it's not.