Messy Neighbour, but she's never home

zcorpian88

God I hate people, have this neighbour living next door to the family home. She's a single mother now I believe as the father to her kids is in and out of prison like a yo-yo, she's only about 20 has 2 kids so she's on the R/A, her family are living around the corner from us and I'm full sure she is living over there because I never see her going anywhere near her house, at night time she's never in there, there is never any lights on yet she has her stuff in there.

I mean why have a f**king house if she's never in it, I see her Dad going in to check on the place for a few minutes every odd week. What's annoying me more is her front garden is like a tip, crisp packets, chocolate bar wrappers, beer cans and cigarette butts etc everywhere and I'm always going out and sweeping it up when the wind blows her rubbish onto our doorstep. Also in the summer time the grass is hardly ever cut and it just lets the whole corner down along with the pile of rubbish in there. To be honest the only time I ever see her in it is when she's having a house party with her skanger-ish friends.

It's bugging me in a way because she got a house handed to her and I'm like 5 years older than her and I'm still stuck in the family home, plenty of other worthy people with children on the housing list that could have that house and appreciate it, council were even up here and fixed the house up and everything, new doors, windows, built in kitchen and she's never in the gaff.

My growing begrudgery makes me want to ring the council and have her turfed out of it. She can live with her mam full time then and not have a part time house to occupy and we can have a neighbour that'll keep the garden clean.

Anyone else have neighbours like this?

Miaireland

If it is the Council who own the house contact them and make a complaint about the rubbish blowing in to your garden, the grass not being cut, the possibility of rubbish attracting rats etc. They will not kick her out but they may make her maintane the place or maybe send someone out to removed the rubbish.

FTA69

Probably be better off minding your own business. Fair enough if her rubbish is blowing into your yard, by all means mention it to her. Trying to rat people out to the council because you're p*ssed off about living with your folks is a different story though.

jam_mac_jam

Why don't you just mind your own business. The grass is never cut? Really?

jamesbere

Have you said anything to her about the rubbish, she might actually be approachable.

Generic Dreadhead

I'd say give her the ride and give her 2 kids a slap

Corvo

I'd probably have the same attitude if I were in your position, mostly because I'm begrudging bastard and her behaviour would drive me nuts.

But try to swallow it and just mention it to her nicely about the rubbish - wouldn't go causing much problems with the council etc.

Failing that, burn the mother****** down to it's foundations.

BBDBB

Litter attracts vermin, perhaps you could report it to the local authority on that basis

alternatively, be a good neighbour and spend 10 minutes picking up the litter for her

zcorpian88

jamesbere wrote: »

Have you said anything to her about the rubbish, she might actually be approachable.

I know what she's like, she has a massive attitude problem, she was a few years behind me in school, has the brain of a 14 year old chav

Uses the phrases "Ya handicap!" a lot. I like to think you'll get the picture.

suicide_circus

Yeah dont rat one your neighbours, they might give you an atomic wedgy and take your lunch money.

SEPT 23 1989

Ring the council

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CJ Haughey

Break in and start living there, 2 minutes with a drill and drill the lock out.

somesoldiers

Do you live on Benefits Street, how is White Dee doing?

Ring the council, if she doesn't need it she shouldn't have it, am sure some family would be delighted to have it

Generic Dreadhead

BBDBB wrote: »

alternatively, be a good neighbour and spend 10 minutes picking up the litter for her

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ScumLord

Make up a fake notice that says the house is being repossed because it's not being looked after. List out all the things wrong and stick it to the door or put it in the letter box.

Make sure to put real numbers on it so when she rings them up and explains how the the house isn't that bad before they tell her it wasn't them that sent the letter but they'll be sending an inspector to see the state of the house.

zcorpian88

ScumLord wrote: »

Make up a fake notice that says the house is being repossed because it's not being looked after. List out all the things wrong and stick it to the door or put it in the letter box.

Make sure to put real numbers on it so when she rings them up and explains how the the house isn't that bad before they tell her it wasn't them that sent the letter but they'll be sending an inspector to see the state of the house.

Haha that is actually quite clever, I could totally do that, nice little letterhead on top etc

nullzero

FTA69 wrote: »

Probably be better off minding your own business. Fair enough if her rubbish is blowing into your yard, by all means mention it to her. Trying to rat people out to the council because you're p*ssed off about living with your folks is a different story though.

If it's a council house and it isn't being occupied then the OP should complain. Fcuking omerta bullsh1t out of some people of hilarious. "a closed mouth catches no flies".

Do you actually live in a council estate OP?

Pumpkinseeds

If it's a council house left unoccupied she should be turfed out. There are plenty of families stuck in hostels waiting for accomodation and if this woman isn't living there full time then she clearly doesn't need the place and it should be given to someone who actually does need it.

zcorpian88

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you actually live in a council estate OP?

Yes I do whoopsadaisydoodles, our side was always the cleanest in the estate, the side where she lived/still lives with her family does be often manky, she's bringing her habits over to our side and I'm the one cleaning it up off my doorstep.

Uncle Ben

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you actually live in a council estate OP?

She may not have to. My sister in law is living in a private estate whilst paying rent to DCC.

zcorpian88

zcorpian88 wrote: »

Yes I do whoopsadaisydoodles, our side was always the cleanest in the estate, the side where she lived/still lives with her family does be often manky, she's bringing her habits over to our side and I'm the one cleaning it up off my doorstep.

Was your family home given to your parents by the council?

I just wonder as you say are bitter that she has been given a council house, but I gather that your parents were also given one so it's a touch hypocritical.

If she is never in the house then I would say that she probably doesn't need it, in fairness, and that would piss me off too because someone who does need it should be there, but if she's never in the house I'm wondering how she makes such a mess of it...

zcorpian88

Deleted User wrote: »

Was your family home given to your parents by the council?

I just wonder as you say are bitter that she has been given a council house, but I gather that your parents were also given one so it's a touch hypocritical.

If she is never in the house then I would say that she probably doesn't need it, in fairness, but if she's never in the house I'm wondering how she makes such a mess of it...

My folks are on a tenant purchase scheme so they have been paying a mortgage on it for the last 13 years so, before that the house was rented for 20 years before that, there was no R/A in my parents day.

She's very seldom in it, I see her in it with a relative sometimes and hanging around outside, chain smoking and throwing the fag butts in her garden or over the wall for it to blow into my side and eating stuff outside, did catch her once throwing a wrapper off a roll ages ago. She has the odd house party in it as well, can be a bit noisey but not over the top. It's the rubbish and the fact she's never in it or looks after it is what's annoying me.

eviltwin

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you actually live in a council estate OP?

Not everyone living on a council estate has a house that was given to them by the council you know. I live on a council estate in a house I pay a mortgage on. And no one is just "given" a house, they pay rent on it.

SEPT 23 1989

zcorpian88 wrote: »

My folks are on a tenant purchase scheme so they have been paying a mortgage on it for the last 13 years so, before that the house was rented for 20 years before that, there was no R/A in my parents day.

She's very seldom in it, I see her in it with a relative sometimes and hanging around outside, chain smoking and throwing the fag butts in her garden or over the wall for it to blow into my side and eating stuff outside. She has the odd house party in it as well, can be a bit noisey but not over the top. It's the rubbish and the fact she's never in it or looks after it is what's annoying me.

there was no need for rent allowance in your parents day because there was enough council houses to go around

those parties could be every night of the week count yourself lucky its only a bit of litter

Chucken

zcorpian88 wrote: »

My folks are on a tenant purchase scheme so they have been paying a mortgage on it for the last 13 years so, before that the house was rented for 20 years before that, there was no R/A in my parents day.

She's very seldom in it, I see her in it with a relative sometimes and hanging around outside, chain smoking and throwing the fag butts in her garden or over the wall for it to blow into my side and eating stuff outside, did catch her once throwing a wrapper off a roll ages ago. She has the odd house party in it as well, can be a bit noisey but not over the top. It's the rubbish and the fact she's never in it or looks after it is what's annoying me.

Rent Allowance doesn't apply to council houses.
How do you know if she sleeps there or not? Do you spend all night twitching the curtain?

eviltwin

eviltwin wrote: »

Not everyone living on a council estate has a house that was given to them by the council you know. I live on a council estate in a house I pay a mortgage on. And no one is just "given" a house, they pay rent on it.

Oh I'm fully aware of all that, I grew up in a council house which my parents now own.

The OP referred to the house being handed to her neighbour though.

Pumpkinseeds

Chucken wrote: »

Rent Allowance doesn't apply to council houses.
How do you know if she sleeps there or not? Do you spend all night twitching the curtain?

In fairness, it's fairly obvious if a house isn't being lived in.

zcorpian88

Chucken wrote: »

Rent Allowance doesn't apply to council houses.
How do you know if she sleeps there or not? Do you spend all night twitching the curtain?

I know a couple of people on it in and around my area, they pay almost nothing for their place, so something is odd here then.

As for the twitching the curtain, nah I don't do that but I'm often outside near my house during the days where I'm free and night and she's never in the vicinity of the house, lights are constantly off, windows are visibly stained and unkempt and can be seen from a far when I'm walking in and out of our house. The place looks like an empty unoccupied house until you see a few knick knacks on the window, there was some DVDs and CDs on a tower on one of the windows. I just know she's not in there,

If she doesn't spend any time in it and lets it go to shambles she shouldn't be in it, especially if the council bothered their bollocks fixing the whole place up for her at the expense of working people.

Egginacup

somesoldiers wrote: »

Do you live on Benefits Street, how is White Dee doing?

Ring the council, if she doesn't need it she shouldn't have it, am sure some family would be delighted to have it

think about it, she's hardly ever there and the biggest complaint is a scruffy front garden. Sure, go ahead and go whining to the council and get her kicked out. you'll wish you hadn't when your next set of neighbours is a family of absolute scrotes, playing drum and bass 24/7, throwing beer can, soiled nappies and all manner of crap into your back garden and putting your odd window through if you complain.

Kelly06

If your unhappy that she is not living in the house you can report it. It's a condition of her tenancy agreement that she be "in need of housing". The only thing is it's quite difficult to prove that someone isn't living in a house and it's a long drawn out court action to remove them. In this case you say that the girl is living round the corner, that makes it doubly hard to prove, if she was say living in Spain for six months of the year it would be easier. All she has to do is meet the housing officer when they call and show them her possessions in the house.

As for the rubbish if it's only wrappers there's not much you can do! You could contact estate management in whatever council it is and complain. It's only a public health issue if there is a build up of house hold waste. Butts and wrappers are not household waste.

Grass cutting is her responsibility but let's be honest she's a twenty year old with two kids out of her parents house for the first time and paying bills. That's a lot of responsibility to heap on a 20 year old , I'm not saying that she's not to blame for that but I'm sure at her age she has more to worry about than cutting grass! It's probably my least favourite job anyways! Again not maintaining a property would be estate management. A tenant liaison officer would visit the tenant to discuss the issues and sometimes offer extra supports when needed.

To be honest it might be a case of put up and shut up because the major issue - not living in the property is going to be really really hard to prove and the other stuff is fairly minor. Also if the council come knocking she's gona know someone was complaining about her and that doesn't make for friendly neighbour relations !

anncoates

Maybe start a blog

Call it Toxic Effluent.

Chucken

zcorpian88 wrote: »

I know a couple of people on it in and around my area, they pay almost nothing for their place, so something is odd here then.

Not true. Rent Allowance does not apply to council houses.

Rent is calculated based on your income.

weisses

Would you say the grass is always greener at the neighbor in this instance OP ?

anncoates

Chucken wrote: »

Not true. Rent Allowance does not apply to council houses.

Rent is calculated based on your income.

It's always amusing that so many of the most strident commentators in here about council housing usually haven't a breeze about it.

StormWarrior

Personally I wouldn't mention these things directly to her because if she does nothing and you need to get the council involved she will know that it's you who reported her. It sounds like she has dodgy friends who might pay you back for that. Report her to the council for the mess and the benefits/housing people about the fact that she's not living there. It is your business because her rubbish is polluting your yard and your taxes are probably paying for a house that she's not using.

WoollyRedHat

Make her think the house is haunted OP. Then she moves out and you get a free house!

zcorpian88

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Make her think the house is haunted OP. Then she moves out and you get a free house!

Haha I wouldn't have a hope of getting it, no kids! Plus if I did move out I'd like to get as far away from the estate as possible, whenever I'm out and I meet anyone new and when I get asked "Where are you from?" and once I say I get this surprising look followed by "Really? You don't look like a scumbag to me, you actually seem fairly intelligent!"

I always took the remark on the chin but it's not good when I'm chatting women up, they don't know what to make of you as the place had a reputation in the past, not so much now but people still take the piss out of it.

My advice [i know it's worth shag all ]; avoid women who judge you by your address.

zcorpian88

Deleted User wrote: »

My advice [i know it's worth shag all ]; avoid women who judge you by your address.

Ah that's very nice of you

Chucken

zcorpian88 wrote: »

Haha I wouldn't have a hope of getting it, no kids! Plus if I did move out I'd like to get as far away from the estate as possible, whenever I'm out and I meet anyone new and when I get asked "Where are you from?" and once I say I get this surprising look followed by "Really? You don't look like a scumbag to me, you actually seem fairly intelligent!"

I always took the remark on the chin but it's not good when I'm chatting women up, they don't know what to make of you as the place had a reputation in the past, not so much now but people still take the piss out of it.

And yet your parents decided to buy their home there?
If I were you, Id get on with my life and dont be so concerned about what the neighbours may or may not be doing.

OU812

Collect all the litter on a regular basis, mow the lawn once a month. And put it all through the letterbox.

zcorpian88

Chucken wrote: »

And yet your parents decided to buy their home there?
If I were you, Id get on with my life and dont be so concerned about what the neighbours may or may not be doing.

Well they were paying dead money in rent and it was due to rise because it was in the middle of the boom and the council put a deal on the table that they could buy the house, they had a very short time to make up their minds or the deal would be withdrawn, my parents actually wanted to have the house fixed up a little before they signed on the dotted line they wanted some new doors and windows to keep the heat in, the council said they would comply with those requirements once they signed, which I was clever enough not to believe as a f**king 13/14 year old, I said they should put that on the tenant purchase scheme agreement too which wasn't on it, and my parents signed it anyway.

And then my mam ringing these f**king TD's looking for the stuff that was "promised" and not getting a hold of them, they much gave us the two fingers once they signed. The folks have another 8 years left on the mortgage still, apparently the house is mine when the time comes. It's only worth about 85,000 or so. The folks weren't mad to get on the property ladder like people were so crazy about doing during the boom.

And back to the problem at hand, at the end of the day if she's not in the place it's only right that it go to someone who will look after it. In weather like at the moment, it'll get damp, mouldy from the lack of heat after all the money being spent on it for a new tenant to go into it, it's a waste like. Plus an annoyance with the rubbish when she does be in there, a total chore.

Ray Palmer

The suggestion that as an adult you are "ratting" on somebody who maybe stealing from the state is childish. If you are suspicious report them and they will be investigated and if they are doing nothing wrong nothing will happen.

I can guess the stupid and aggressive remarks people will make about that but you need to grow up and/or realise fraud on the state is not some honorable thing.

nullzero

Ray Palmer wrote: »

The suggestion that as an adult you are "ratting" on somebody who maybe stealing from the state is childish. If you are suspicious report them and they will be investigated and if they are doing nothing wrong nothing will happen.

I can guess the stupid and aggressive remarks people will make about that but you need to grow up and/or realise fraud on the state is not some honorable thing.

Thou shalt not break the scumbags code. If the person being discussed saw a similar situation they'd be the first to report it in the hope they or one of their scummy relatives would get the house in question. There's no honour amongst scrotes.

zcorpian88

nullzero wrote: »

Thou shalt not break the scumbags code. If the person being discussed saw a similar situation they'd be the first to report it in the hope they or one of their scummy relatives would get the house in question. There's no honour amongst scrotes.

In a nutshell mate! Infestation, When someone on my corner moves out, it's often the quiet neighbours who lived there fairly long term and were sound and I actually liked them, and then I'm thinking once they are gone "Awww no some bollocks is going to move in now in their place!"

By the time I inherit the place I'll probably sell the place if it's going to go even more downhill. Nothing but unemployable Dutch Gold drinking anti-social misfits moving in.