Drive to Test Centre without NCT

wotzgoingon · 08-02-2015 9:27pm #1

Hey can you drive to the NCT test centre without NCT? I think I read here that you can, I just wan to make sure and if you fail are you allowed drive back home or do you have to get some sort of transport?

CiniO · 08-02-2015 9:32pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Hey can you drive to the NCT test centre without NCT?

Legally, no - you can't.

if you fail are you allowed drive back home or do you have to get some sort of transport?

You are allowed to drive home or wherever you like for the rest of the day the car failed NCT.
On the other hand - your car needs to be roadworthy when you are driving, so while no one can prosecute you for driving without NCT in such case, they could prosecute you for driving unroadworthy car.

wotzgoingon · 08-02-2015 10:03pm

CiniO wrote: »

Legally, no - you can't.

You are allowed to drive home or wherever you like for the rest of the day the car failed NCT.
On the other hand - your car needs to be roadworthy when you are driving, so while no one can prosecute you for driving without NCT in such case, they could prosecute you for driving unroadworthy car.

So when you fail you are allowed drive home. That is pretty decent but getting there I will have to drive ninja style. :eek:

mrsoundie · 08-02-2015 10:05pm

CiniO wrote: »

Legally, no - you can't.

You are allowed to drive home or wherever you like for the rest of the day the car failed NCT.
On the other hand - your car needs to be roadworthy when you are driving, so while no one can prosecute you for driving without NCT in such case, they could prosecute you for driving unroadworthy car.

I was under the impression, that (like the MOT), you can only drive to and from the NCT centre and nothing else.

corktina · 08-02-2015 10:30pm

you are allowed drive home or to a garage for repairs if you fail (and it isn't deemed to be dangerous) and I think back again for re-test but that's it.

CJ Haughey · 08-02-2015 11:03pm

Any insurance company will walk away if you have no test and involved in an collision.

CiniO · 08-02-2015 11:14pm

corktina wrote: »

you are allowed drive home or to a garage for repairs if you fail (and it isn't deemed to be dangerous) and I think back again for re-test but that's it.

Well that's not exactly it.
Once you fail, you can drive anywhere you wish till the end of the day you failed NCT (I assume it's until midnight). It's not specified that you can only drive home or to garage for repairs. If you wish to do round trip around the country, there's no law stopping you from doing it. That's obviously if car is roadworthy, which might be problematic after failing NCT. But only what they can do you for is driving unroadworthy car - not for driving without NCT.
And in relation for driving back for retest - you can only do it, if retest is in the same day as you failed original NCT. Later you can't. Car needs to be towed.

CiniO · 08-02-2015 11:15pm

CJ Haughey wrote: »

Any insurance company will walk away if you have no test and involved in an collision.

Every single insurance company will pay up third party claim if you do harm to someone. They might try to recover money from you, but it's not certain if they will.
When it comes to covering your own car - then it might be different. Most insurers introduced a clause stating that NCT is required, but AFAIK still not all of them.

CiniO · 08-02-2015 11:16pm

mrsoundie wrote: »

I was under the impression, that (like the MOT), you can only drive to and from the NCT centre and nothing else.

You can not drive to NCT centre for your test, if your test is expired.

downonthefarm · 08-02-2015 11:17pm

CJ Haughey wrote: »

Any insurance company will walk away if you have no test and involved in an collision.

Nope

CJ Haughey · 08-02-2015 11:20pm

CiniO wrote: »

Every single insurance company will pay up third party claim is you do harm to someone. They might try to recover money from you, but it's not certain if they will.
When it comes to covering your own car - then it might be different. Most insurers introduced a clause stating that NCT is required, but AFAIK still not all of them.

Alot of uncertainty in your post there.

CiniO · 08-02-2015 11:22pm

CJ Haughey wrote: »

Alot of uncertainty in your post there.

Better to leave some uncertainty than stating untrue about every insurer walking away in case of lack of NCT.

DanWall · 08-02-2015 11:24pm

Test centre for me is 40 ml away, its quite a drive home in a vehicle that is not roadworthy, but if that's the law they need more NCT stations

testicle · 09-02-2015 8:39am

CiniO wrote: »

Legally, no - you can't.

Nonsense.

testicle · 09-02-2015 8:39am

CiniO wrote: »

You can not drive to NCT centre for your test, if your test is expired.

Wrong!

corktina · 09-02-2015 10:45am

you need to say why he's wrong, otherwise you are wasting your time/ I agree with him on that point.

corktina · 09-02-2015 10:45am

CiniO wrote: »

Well that's not exactly it.
Once you fail, you can drive anywhere you wish till the end of the day you failed NCT (I assume it's until midnight). It's not specified that you can only drive home or to garage for repairs. If you wish to do round trip around the country, there's no law stopping you from doing it. That's obviously if car is roadworthy, which might be problematic after failing NCT. But only what they can do you for is driving unroadworthy car - not for driving without NCT.
And in relation for driving back for retest - you can only do it, if retest is in the same day as you failed original NCT. Later you can't. Car needs to be towed.

you are going to have to show a link to that as I don't beleive you

challengemaster · 09-02-2015 12:04pm

testicle wrote: »

Nonsense.

testicle wrote: »

Wrong!

You're the one who is wrong, sir testicle.

corktina wrote: »

you are going to have to show a link to that as I don't beleive you

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/si/0567.html

S.I. No. 567/2009 - Road Traffic (National Car Test) Regulations 2009

3. (5) This Regulation does not apply to a vehicle—

(a) first registered prior to 1 January 1980,

(b) which is used solely on an off-shore island,

(c) on the day on which a test certificate in respect of the vehicle had been refused, or

(d) which is owned or operated by the Garda Síochána or the Defence Forces.

Cinio isn't wrong... Only in Ireland could you go from something that makes more sense to something that makes less sense.

The 1999 version was this

(c) which is being driven to a test centre, for the purposes of having a test, or a re-test, carried out, for which an appointment had been made prior to the time of such driving,

CiniO · 09-02-2015 12:58pm

corktina wrote: »

you are going to have to show a link to that as I don't beleive you

Challengemaster was quicker

NCT regulations does not apply to vehicle on the day it failed NCT.

spurious · 09-02-2015 1:12pm

My NCT was up on the 5th February. I booked a test back in November and the only date they could give me was January 30th. It failed on that date and I was given a month to get things fixed. Garage waiting on part and hopefully will be fixed today.

How do I get it to the NCT testing centre if it can't be driven?

challengemaster · 09-02-2015 1:13pm

spurious wrote: »

How do I get it to the NCT testing centre if it can't be driven?

Have it towed

Supergurrier · 09-02-2015 1:18pm

Jaysus some people love to talk **** in here lately just to be different.

Use common sense OP.

Once you have documentation with you proving you have a test that day and that's where you are headed you will be fine.

Good luck with the test.

CiniO · 09-02-2015 1:24pm

Supergurrier wrote: »

Jaysus some people love to talk **** in here lately just to be different.

Use common sense OP.

Once you have documentation with you proving you have a test that day and that's where you are headed you will be fine.

How can you tell?
Maybe he will be, maybe not?
No one can stop garda from issuing a fine and 3 points for NCT in such case if he wishes to do so.

cython · 09-02-2015 1:44pm

challengemaster wrote: »

You're the one who is wrong, sir testicle.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/si/0567.html

Cinio isn't wrong... Only in Ireland could you go from something that makes more sense to something that makes less sense.

The 1999 version was this

Worth noting that there is a more recent relevant SI replacing that:

(7) Section 18 and these Regulations do not apply to a vehicle—

(a) other than a small public service vehicle, first registered prior to 1 January 1980,

(b) other than a small public service vehicle, which is used solely on an off-shore island,

(c) on the day on which a test certificate in respect of the vehicle had been refused,

(d) in the 24 hour period prior to a test appointment in the case of a vehicle heretofore used solely on an off-shore island attending for a first test provided evidence of the appointment is produced, or

(e) which is owned or operated by the Garda Síochána or the Defence Forces.

Admittedly this does not change the meaning in the majority of cases, but if you want to get technical about this, driving to the test centre without a cert is arguably only illegal if you subsequently pass, given the wording is "on the day on which...." (though had been may legally override this) - crazy, right?! Now while I wouldn't test this with a judge, nor suggest that anyone else do it, in the strictest sense of the letter of the law, in driving to the centre without a valid test, it could be seen as a bit of a Schrodinger's Cat situation.

corktina · 09-02-2015 2:04pm

Supergurrier wrote: »

Jaysus some people love to talk **** in here lately just to be different.

Use common sense OP.

Once you have documentation with you proving you have a test that day and that's where you are headed you will be fine.

Good luck with the test.

just tell tell the Gard Supergurrier said it would be OK:D

Drive to Test Centre without NCT

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