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The COLD FUSION race just heated up

  • 07-02-2015 9:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭


    From WIRED

    Jan 2015
    The arguments about the Lugano Report continue, meanwhile there has been an even more surprising development. Prof Alexander Parkhomov of Lomonosov Moscow State University has published a paper describing his successful replication of the E-Cat, based on the available information about it. The paper is in Russian; there is a link and commentary and video in English on E-Cat World. Parkhomov's results are more modest, but the energy output of his cloned E-Cat claimed to be up to 2.74 times as great as the input.
    LINK


    Feb 2015
    An attempt by the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project to replicate E-Cat, Andrea Rossi's alleged cold fusion reactor, ended explosively yesterday after the reactor heated to over 1,000C. Link

    gatessm.jpg

    Bill Gates visits Rossi's cold fusion university LINK and LINK

    Note some commentators are dubiously linking these developments to recent oil price movements. LINK

    Norwegian magazine TU (Teknisk Ukeblad) "If this is true Oil is worthless" LINK


    In an effort to not drag up an old post that is not really relevant anymore (and so should not be done) please see these older posts for some context
    LINK and LINK


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Skeptical dog is still skeptical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    celtic_oz wrote: »

    Norwegian magazine TU (Teknisk Ukeblad) "If this is true Oil is worthless" LINK

    er no oil would still be very valuable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    celtic_oz wrote: »
    Norwegian magazine TU (Teknisk Ukeblad) "If this is true Oil is worthless" LINK

    Not to worry Norway, it's not true. It's never true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    Not to worry Norway, it's not true. It's never true.

    Seems Statoil are investigating anyway ( see below 5 mins in )

    Link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭SOL


    Wait, you put hydrogen into a nickel container at 1,000 C and it exploded, therefore cold fusion?

    If so this is amazing. I wasn't bothered to read the article though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    very interesting, hope it's true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    339380.jpg

    Rossi reveals pictures of alleged 1MW plant on new personal website: LINK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    celtic_oz wrote: »
    <snip>

    Rossi reveals pictures of alleged 1MW plant on new personal website: LINK

    Seriously, do you know anything about this guy?

    Don't waste your time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Tweej


    If it's cold fusion, why was the reactor so hot?

    Common false advertising, nothing to see here


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Or if you're handy with a soldering iron you could make your own solar panel from solar cells you can buy on aliexpress for 50c / watt.


    The problem with free energy isn't harvesting it, solar and wind are easy and getting cheaper. The big problem is storing it.

    Things like cold fusion and Orbo and perpetual motion machines are really only about avoiding energy storage.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    although if you could use the energy to restore potential energy when demand is low... I.e. use it to pump the water back up into the hydroelectric dam at night.

    I think some american companywas proposing this for wind energy combined with Hydroelectric power in Ireland but Illuminati etc...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    although if you could use the energy to restore potential energy when demand is low... I.e. use it to pump the water back up into the hydroelectric dam at night.

    I think some american companywas proposing this for wind energy combined with Hydroelectric power in Ireland but Illuminati etc...
    OR
    you could look at what's been happening in Germany where renewables are crucifying pumped storage because there is no longer the guaranteed margin.

    If fusion depends on storage then it will have to be cheaper than solar which is still falling in price on both volume and plenty of solar breakthroughs that are waiting to be commercialised.

    Bifacial panels that can use light from both sides giving about 10% extra. Cells based on cheaper materials than silicon. Cheaper silicon as new methods of production are available. It's getting to the stage where the ancillary costs are more than the panels. But cost and efficiency improvements are happening with cabling and electronics too. And integrating solar in new build is cheaper than retrofitting.

    Fission shows that it can be very, very expensive to harvest "cheap" energy.

    Energy density is very important too. Wave energy sounds good at 50KW/meter off our coast. That's 1 GW per 20Km. But the construction costs would be enormous. The one nice thing about wave energy is that it shows up after windy weather because it's mostly wind energy stored as ocean waves and so stretches the times we can use wind.

    Probably cheaper than pumped storage too ;)


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