best cheap game shooting cartridge?

hunter701

best cheap game shooting cartridge? any suggestions?

fiocchi pl32?
eley supergame?
eley gpmaximum?
eley grand prix?
RC sipe?
remington sureshot?
gamebore black gold?
nsi nobel sport?

which would you choose?

Stonehall9

hunter701 wrote: »

best cheap game shooting cartridge? any suggestions?

fiocchi pl32?
eley supergame?
eley gpmaximum?
eley grand prix?
RC sipe?
remington sureshot?
gamebore black gold?
nsi nobel sport?

which would you choose?

Black Gold are not cheap!! Eley Grand Prix 34g7 and rc 34g6 two best value, couldn't fault either .rc 's are lethal

blackpearl

RC sipe 7s puts the rest to shame tested them all on plate best spread at 35 yards.

blackpearl

express supream game also top class patern but very pricey.

useurowname

I have never used Gamebore (they've a massive reputation) they, and most of the others you list would not be described as cheap shells. I most often get the slab of Eley Grand Prix 32g 6. I find they pattern very well in my gun, I think confidence and consistency are most important facets in becoming a better shot so I stay with them. RC Sipe are also a very good shell and usually a bit cheaper than the equivalent Eley. Remington seem okay but I used to find the Fiocchi dirty and recoil excessive(maybe that has changed now!?). I'd go out of my way to avoid Eley Supergame, personally I wouldn't take them to shoot game if they were offered to me for free.

Snakezilla

Cross everything off that list except RC Sipe ! Great cartridge ! Going to buy 1000 myself before the end of the month, they will get me well through the summer and hopefully into the game season ! If you can get a good deal for 1000 then go for it !

hunter701

was using rc2 caccia alongdside rc3caccia game the past few days using 6s in rc 2 and 5s in rc3 rc 2s seem powerful and very effective so far shot 3 crows at high up distances of 25-35 yrds while walking my dog and got 3 crows and 1 snipe

havent really used the rc 3 caccia yet but i think i made a mistake gettin em in no 5s i shouldve got em in no 6

hunter701

my local supplier said he doesnt bother stocking eley grand prix cuz he said noone wants em altough id like to try em

he also said that the people who buy eley say that they find the eley grand prix maximum better in performance to the grand prix.

hunter701

so rc are a very good cartridge so especially where sipe is concerned

cookimonster

hunter701 wrote: »

.........havent really used the rc 3 caccia yet but i think i made a mistake gettin em in no 5s............

When the game season reopens keep the 5's for ducks. For now use them for rabbits, foxs and some evening crack roost shooting.

useurowname

hunter701 wrote: »

my local supplier said he doesnt bother stocking eley grand prix cuz he said noone wants em altough id like to try em

he also said that the people who buy eley say that they find the eley grand prix maximum better in performance to the grand prix.

You should find a better supplier, sounds like he stocks feck all..

Grand Prix Maximum are a 34g shell Grand Prix are 30g and 32g, which imo are the ideal Game shell, i.e. walked up pheasant, woodcock, duck can't go wrong. Since Eley rebranded a few years ago the Grand Prix have been excellent, I've great confidence in them.

blackpearl

you have express ,gamebore and rcs and then you have the rest.

hunter701

useurowname wrote: »

You should find a better supplier, sounds like he stocks feck all..

Grand Prix Maximum are a 34g shell Grand Prix are 30g and 32g, which imo are the ideal Game shell, i.e. walked up pheasant, woodcock, duck can't go wrong. Since Eley rebranded a few years ago the Grand Prix have been excellent, I've great confidence in them.

yeah ever hear of wildhunter there one of my nearest suppliers

hunter701

eley grand prix standard oh yeah id say your right cuz back in 2006 when the older grand prix were availabel they were absolute dust so id say your right in saying that they are better since rebranding

i priced them at my nearest supplier not wildhunter and they are €10.50 a box fayles hardware in birr

hunter701

so im guesing no6 is good for crows pigeons etc im using RCS and remingtons theyre very good but i must get more fiocchi and see what theyre like and maybe some eley grand prix altough the eley company is owned by a spanish crowd now arent they?

i found those supergames absolute dirt i bought some in sportsden and they were ok but i bought more in wildhunter and they were dirt plus i noticed the 2 batches i bought look the same BUT.... the eley BADGE is not stamped on one of the batches where it is stamped on the other im confused

useurowname

I'm confused as well...will ya get on and buy some shells and and try them, your going on here for weeks about buying shells for this or that, and had every opinion on every shell on the market cos u now you want to go and shoot a few crows. At this rate I'd hate to be buying a house with ya or selling you one!!:D

hunter701

useurowname wrote: »

I'm confused as well...will ya get on and buy some shells and and try them, your going on here for weeks about buying shells for this or that, and had every opinion on every shell on the market cos u now you want to go and shoot a few crows. At this rate I'd hate to be buying a house with ya or selling you one!!:D

true but these are what ive been testing during the week: bear in mind i keep mine warm and the powder therefore burns better

RC 2 no6 excellent
RC 3 no5 excellent
eley super game no5 dirt
nsi nobel sport stnd. no5 very good
RC sipe no5 excellent
eley grnd prix maximum no5 very good
remington shurshot no6 excellent
fiocchi pl32 no5+6 good ok reasonable

at the moment i am buying various brands to see how they perform so ill be buying B&P gamebore epress hull more eley gp and more fiocchi and RC along with more nsi and every other cartridge brand i can get my hands on bear in mind it is good to mildly warm your cartridges as they perform better all the powder burns and leaves you litle or no cleaning after shooting

blackpearl

looking what you have up ,why not stick with rcs ?

hunter701

blackpearl wrote: »

looking what you have up ,why not stick with rcs ?

yes i aggree but i want to try out a few more before i settle

cookimonster

I'm an average shot at best, if I want to improve my ability I can start to look at gun fit, chokes and cartridges, but all in all these tweeks will only slightly improve my shooting abilities and infact can, if I over think it, work against me because I may blame anyone or more other variables instead of the actual faults in my shooting fundamentals.

Now I'm not implying anything about your shooting skills, I'm just using my experience to illustrate how one can become wrapped up in tech specs and variables.

I generally use No 6 in 32-34 gram for all my rough shooting, usually RC brand, due to the good value, I'll buy 5's for ducks and recently on bolted rabbits and when the pigeons are kamakzi over decoys I'll use 7 1/2 28 grams (please no debates, its been done to death).

My own personal shooting abilities cannot out shoot the ability of the gun nor the cartridges I use, so once they go bang, pattern ok and eject properly I'm happy. After that the only problem in the system is me...........

philmire

cookimonster wrote: »

I'm an average shot at best, if I want to improve my ability I can start to look at gun fit, chokes and cartridges, but all in all these tweeks will only slightly improve my shooting abilities and infact can, if I over think it, work against me because I may blame anyone or more other variables instead of the actual faults in my shooting fundamentals.

Now I'm not implying anything about your shooting skills, I'm just using my experience to illustrate how one can become wrapped up in tech specs and variables.

I generally use No 6 in 32-34 gram for all my rough shooting, usually RC brand, due to the good value, I'll buy 5's for ducks and recently on bolted rabbits and when the pigeons are kamakzi over decoys I'll use 7 1/2 28 grams (please no debates, its been done to death).

My own personal shooting abilities cannot out shoot the ability of the gun nor the cartridges I use, so once they go bang, pattern ok and eject properly I'm happy. After that the only problem in the system is me...........

Well said stick with the best cheapest one that patterns well and you need to check that on paper not live quarry and with waterproof cartridges I don't think warm powder is gonna make a difference the heat generated from the round going off will burn everything anyways

blackpearl

don't no about the warm shells,a mate of mine who shoots clays for Ireland always said to keep shells stored in a warm place bottom of the hotpress said it made a big difference on the preforamance of the shell.

hunter701

blackpearl wrote: »

don't no about the warm shells,a mate of mine who shoots clays for Ireland always said to keep shells stored in a warm place bottom of the hotpress said it made a big difference on the preforamance of the shell.

thats exactly what im doing