Underlay with an engineered wood floor?

derb12

I'm hoping someone can advise me on this.
I am installing UFH over a concrete slab (ground floor) so everything seems to point to putting down an engineered wood floor.
However I notice in showrooms that the engineered floor sound a bit "clickety clack" compared to the solid wood floors (obviously since they aren't solid wood). I suppose most people don't mind this difference in sound, but I do and I would really like to get that solid wood sound. It seems that the underlays that have acoustic properties are designed to lessen sound transfer between floors, so I don't even know if they would change the sound/feel of the floor as you walk across it.
I've looked around and am considering this product, but only if it will do what I want ... make the floor sound more solid.
Tiles are out, but a solid floor could be a solution if installing it over UFH is not crazy or asking for trouble.
Has anybody gone with solid wood over UFH and or an underlay?
Thanks:)

genuine leather

Have you considered/researched if gluing down a solid wood floor over UFH would work.I have done a few( not over ufh) and it is a super solid job.

husq

To the best of my knowledge, you have to glue the engineered floor for the heat to transfer properly, the glue is crazy expensive

derb12

genuine leather wrote: »

Have you considered/researched if gluing down a solid wood floor over UFH would work.I have done a few( not over ufh) and it is a super solid job.

I've done a bit more research and still haven't decided. Most of the people I've spoken to are straight UFH => engineered floor or laminate - that seems to be the way the industry is headed.
But the junckers solid floor brochure has a whole section on how well they work with UFH!
If I thought I'd get a good result with a 20mm solid floor glued down as you suggest I'd definitely go for it.
Thanks for your help!

derb12

husq wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, you have to glue the engineered floor for the heat to transfer properly, the glue is crazy expensive

You're right. I'd definitely have to factor the cost of the glue into my budget.

Calahonda52

derb12 wrote: »

- that seems to be the way the industry is headed.
!

What a bold statement!
This is the wooden floor guys saying this to protect their markets.
It has zip to do with the efficiency of the floor relative to tiles and other stuff that conduct heat better than timber.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/thermal-conductivity-d_429.html
If you are wedded to timber floor and a uhf type heating, then put the heating in the walls.

genuine leather

derb12 wrote: »

You're right. I'd definitely have to factor the cost of the glue into my budget.

I agree, the adhesive is quite expensive, but once finised its worth it i feel.

derb12

Calahonda52 wrote: »

What a bold statement!
This is the wooden floor guys saying this to protect their markets.
It has zip to do with the efficiency of the floor relative to tiles and other stuff that conduct heat better than timber.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/thermal-conductivity-d_429.html
If you are wedded to timber floor and a uhf type heating, then put the heating in the walls.

Relax - nobody has said anything about wooden floors having better thermal conductivity than tiles. Obviously tiles are ideal for ufh. But I don't want tiles and I want to know if an engineered floor with an underlay will give me a similar result (sound wise) to solid wood.
I'm only considering wood (that's what this thread is about) and so the statement that most floor manufacturers are pushing towards engineered rather than solid is not a bold statement at all.

gofasterdad

Hi Derb12, we installed an engineered wooden floor over underfloor Heating and used the Quicktherm underlay you linked to.

Sound: it just sounds like a regular wooden floor, the sound is more dull than click-clack if that makes sense

Heat: well the heat is definitley coming through, the floor is a lovely temperature. we have tiles in one section and engineered wood in the rest and to be honest i don't notice that much of a difference between the two. I'm sure there is a difference if you measured it accurately, but from the point of view of an ordinary user I don't notice it.

derb12

gofasterdad wrote: »

Hi Derb12, we installed an engineered wooden floor over underfloor Heating and used the Quicktherm underlay you linked to.

Sound: it just sounds like a regular wooden floor, the sound is more dull than click-clack if that makes sense

Heat: well the heat is definitley coming through, the floor is a lovely temperature. we have tiles in one section and engineered wood in the rest and to be honest i don't notice that much of a difference between the two. I'm sure there is a difference if you measured it accurately, but from the point of view of an ordinary user I don't notice it.

Thanks gfd! That's very encouraging to hear - definitely leaning towards your solution so it's great to hear that it works.
Thanks again!