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Training Plan Opinions

  • 05-02-2015 4:53pm
    #1
    jaggiebunnet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭


    I am sure this has been done to death before and I have read a few posts so just looking for thoughts from anyone with experience.

    Did my first marathon, Cork, last year. 3.45, was aiming for 3.30 but ided around 20miles. Used the advanced 2 Hal Higdon training plan and got on ok with it - don't think I did nearly enough MP miles and that is what got me in the end - not necessarily the plans fault as I am not sure I followed those MP runs as well as I could have.

    Received the Jack Daniels book as a christmas present and have been looking at the plans in there - first reaction was 'what the f**k is this' and the more I read it and the more I think understand it the more my head hurts.

    anyway, been doing about 40 miles a week for the past couple of months, broke 70mins for the first time at dungarvan 10 last weekend. I read that JD plans are only beneficial for those really high in mileage and I think I will max out at 65ish due to time constraints and I am also concerned about the lack of 20 mile runs especially with the fact that I died around this point last year.

    What do people think - do you take a plan and just build on the general ideas and use it as it suits you - experiences thoughts? My hope is to go sub 3.30 this year, the stretch goal being sub 3.15.

    Thanks for reading!


Comments

  • #2
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,553 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Which version of the JD book are you reading? I've followed Plan A a couple of time (Revision 2 I think) and it has served me well, but my mileage would generally be a good bit higher than 65 miles per week. Have you looked at Pfitzinger and Douglas' Advanced Marathoning? Specific plans aimed at specific mileages, so may well suit. Certainly very suitable for someone moving from from 3:30/3:45 upwards.

    Worth bearing in mind that these plans are just a template and should be adapted to suit your needs (and weaknesses). So for example, if there are not enough MP sessions, add some in, in a structured manner. If you fade at 20 miles, it may be a sign that you are running too fast during your race (did you do any tune-up races that indicated that 3:30 was feasible?), have not prepared suitably, or have not built the necessary endurance (may need to run long runs slower).


  • #3
    jaggiebunnet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭jaggiebunnet


    It is JD Version 3 - don't think there is a Plan A in that version. Will have a look at the the P&D suggestions thanks.

    I had done a few 10m/10k races that indicated 3.30 was definitely what i should be aiming for and had done the 3 x 20 milers before hand but I also think that they were too slow (although not according to the plan) combined with the lack of MP miles in other runs so yeah i need to target them.


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