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milkprofit

At recent meeting we spent I
Hour estimating how much we would loose this year
One example had former with 140 cows losing 30 k
What do u think

mf240

milkprofit wrote: »

At recent meeting we spent I
Hour estimating how much we would loose this year
One example had former with 140 cows losing 30 k
What do u think

What costs were they working off. And what price.

Cant see it myself unless he had very high costs.

stanflt

mf240 wrote: »

What costs were they working off. And what price.

Cant see it myself unless he had very high costs.

my milk prices last year 41c

2015 prediction 33c inc bonuses

150cows delivering 8300 litres equals 100k less


reality is tough for many lads

jaymla627

milkprofit wrote: »

At recent meeting we spent I
Hour estimating how much we would loose this year
One example had former with 140 cows losing 30 k
What do u think

Was their a nice big super levy fine factored into that aswell, our had he quota...withstanding the drop in milk price it's lads that are massively exposed to big super levy fines that are in the most trouble

frazzledhome

Super levy will be managed. If a guy is any way switched on this debt or some corresponding debt would've been capitalised by now. If not should be done immediately. Cash flow is going to be a big issue, not price.

Guys who ignore grass and solids are in for a rough ride. Whatever the processors do with milk price is outside our control. Costs and constituents are in our own gift. The coop average price is appaling proving many are ignoring solids, but hey the cows are milking well:(:(

Tax is something never usually factored in to most guys calcs.

So forgetting price
1. Capitalise any spending that has been done from cash flow in the last few yrs

2. Know where SL fine is going to come from

3. Get your accounts finalised in the next month to facilitate a plan

4. Find out what your tax situation is

5. Get out p&k along with urea

6. Measure grass weekly and trust the figures

7. Expansion is not a race, consider selling some stock to maintain income

8. Watch every cent out, if you did without something last year you'll do without this year

9. Remove all passenger animals and concentrate on breeding and milking stock

10. Get someone to milk every Sun pm

That's my top 10 things that I can control

Whats a derailleur?

frazzledhome wrote: »

Super levy will be managed. If a guy is any way switched on this debt or some corresponding debt would've been capitalised by now. If not should be done immediately. Cash flow is going to be a big issue, not price.

Guys who ignore grass and solids are in for a rough ride. Whatever the processors do with milk price is outside our control. Costs and constituents are in our own gift. The coop average price is appaling proving many are ignoring solids, but hey the cows are milking well:(:(

Tax is something never usually factored in to most guys calcs.

So forgetting price
1. Capitalise any spending that has been done from cash flow in the last few yrs

2. Know where SL fine is going to come from

3. Get your accounts finalised in the next month to facilitate a plan

4. Find out what your tax situation is

5. Get out p&k along with urea

6. Measure grass weekly and trust the figures

7. Expansion is not a race, consider selling some stock to maintain income

8. Watch every cent out, if you did without something last year you'll do without this year

9. Remove all passenger animals and concentrate on breeding and milking stock

10. Get someone to milk every Sun pm

That's my top 10 things that I can control

Excellent round up of areas that are within the control of dairy farmers and what their eye should be on. Too many people are focused on price...

frazzledhome

Whats a derailleur? wrote: »

Excellent round up of areas that are within the control of dairy farmers and what their eye should be on. Too many people are focused on price...

Do you buy milk:):)

trixi2011

frazzledhome wrote: »

Super levy will be managed. If a guy is any way switched on this debt or some corresponding debt would've been capitalised by now. If not should be done immediately. Cash flow is going to be a big issue, not price.

Guys who ignore grass and solids are in for a rough ride. Whatever the processors do with milk price is outside our control. Costs and constituents are in our own gift. The coop average price is appaling proving many are ignoring solids, but hey the cows are milking well:(:(

Tax is something never usually factored in to most guys calcs.

So forgetting price
1. Capitalise any spending that has been done from cash flow in the last few yrs

2. Know where SL fine is going to come from

3. Get your accounts finalised in the next month to facilitate a plan

4. Find out what your tax situation is

5. Get out p&k along with urea

6. Measure grass weekly and trust the figures

7. Expansion is not a race, consider selling some stock to maintain income

8. Watch every cent out, if you did without something last year you'll do without this year

9. Remove all passenger animals and concentrate on breeding and milking stock

10. Get someone to milk every Sun pm

That's my top 10 things that I can control

What sort of p and k are you going to get out with your urea frazz?

frazzledhome

trixi2011 wrote: »

What sort of p and k are you going to get out with your urea frazz?

My job for tomorrow is to plan fert. I need to decide wheather compound or blend will be used. I'll deffo be using urea as main source of N. cheapest option per unit

Just got soil results today. 16% of farm is index 1 this will prob get straight p&k + Urea. I'd plan to get this done ASAP

trixi2011

frazzledhome wrote: »

My job for tomorrow is to plan fert. I need to decide wheather compound or blend will be used. I'll deffo be using urea as main source of N. cheapest option per unit

Just got soil results today. 16% of farm is index 1 this will prob get straight p&k + Urea. I'd plan to get this done ASAP

What's the plan for your higher indexs pricing up dap at the moment and some compounds 10-10-20 seems to be the fertilizer of choice in Ireland but its not available over here.

Greengrass1

trixi2011 wrote: »

What's the plan for your higher indexs pricing up dap at the moment and some compounds 10-10-20 seems to be the fertilizer of choice in Ireland but its not available over here.

15-10-10 arrived here today 2 bags going on all grazing ground for first round.
Think it'll be pasture sward then till we use up rest of our allowance
0-7-30 for silage ground then

trixi2011

Greengrass1 wrote: »

15-10-10 arrived here today 2 bags going on all grazing ground for first round.
Think it'll be pasture sward then till we use up rest of our allowance
0-7-30 for silage ground then

Have urea sitting here ready to go but soil temp is only 1.5 so no point going out for a while yet.

Greengrass1

trixi2011 wrote: »

Have urea sitting here ready to go but soil temp is only 1.5 so no point going out for a while yet.

Weather looking very good for next ten days. Good dry weather no frost.
Air temps at 7 tomorrow. Soil shouldn't be too far behind.
Time for fert now?

trixi2011

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Weather looking very good for next ten days. Good dry weather no frost.
Air temps at 7 tomorrow. Soil shouldn't be too far behind.
Time for fert now?

Be a bit further north gg have only 2 paddocks without a blanket of snow and were the talk of the town with cows out never mind spreading fert but will keep an eye on the weather and spread once the temp starts increasing

whelan2

frazzledhome wrote: »

Super levy will be managed. If a guy is any way switched on this debt or some corresponding debt would've been capitalised by now. If not should be done immediately. Cash flow is going to be a big issue, not price.

Guys who ignore grass and solids are in for a rough ride. Whatever the processors do with milk price is outside our control. Costs and constituents are in our own gift. The coop average price is appaling proving many are ignoring solids, but hey the cows are milking well:(:(

Tax is something never usually factored in to most guys calcs.

So forgetting price
1. Capitalise any spending that has been done from cash flow in the last few yrs

2. Know where SL fine is going to come from

3. Get your accounts finalised in the next month to facilitate a plan

4. Find out what your tax situation is

5. Get out p&k along with urea

6. Measure grass weekly and trust the figures

7. Expansion is not a race, consider selling some stock to maintain income

8. Watch every cent out, if you did without something last year you'll do without this year

9. Remove all passenger animals and concentrate on breeding and milking stock

10. Get someone to milk every Sun pm

That's my top 10 things that I can control

very good, have come out from a few lean years here, my number 1 is food on the table, then electricity. If you owe money let the people know your situation and dont bury your head in the sand.

Farmer Pudsey

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Weather looking very good for next ten days. Good dry weather no frost.
Air temps at 7 tomorrow. Soil shouldn't be too far behind.
Time for fert now?

http://www.met.ie/latest/agri_soiltemp.asp

I think it is too early to put out fertlizer or slurry unless you have dry land out beside Kruger Kavanaghs in Dingle. N in slurry is too valuable to me to waste if at all possible. Too many look at it as something to be got rid of no matter what. Think we have another 2 weeks at least before we hit 6-7C

jaymla627

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

http://www.met.ie/latest/agri_soiltemp.asp

I think it is too early to put out fertlizer or slurry unless you have dry land out beside Kruger Kavanaghs in Dingle. N in slurry is too valuable to me to waste if at all possible. Too many look at it as something to be got rid of no matter what. Think we have another 2 weeks at least before we hit 6-7C

Know a lad that went with 12 ton of urea two weeks ago on his grazing block, up in the midlands here was some crazy logic behind that...

Farmer Pudsey

jaymla627 wrote: »

Know a lad that went with 12 ton of urea two weeks ago on his grazing block, up in the midlands here was some crazy logic behind that...

Jack Kenneddy

mf240

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Jack Kenneddy

Yip. The cult leader.

whelan2

jaymla627 wrote: »

Know a lad that went with 12 ton of urea two weeks ago on his grazing block, up in the midlands here was some crazy logic behind that...

went with umbilical slurry spreader that injected the slurry into the ground, brilliant job , went on a few fields that we would never be able to spread on. No fertiliser out yet here, cows going out tomorrow:D

jaymla627

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Jack Kenneddy

Seen that garbage he was talking in the back pages of the journal, be good if he checked the long term forecasts for weather once in a while mt cranium saying looking at much of the same weather as now for the next week at least

ellewood

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

http://www.met.ie/latest/agri_soiltemp.asp

I think it is too early to put out fertlizer or slurry unless you have dry land out beside Kruger Kavanaghs in Dingle. N in slurry is too valuable to me to waste if at all possible. Too many look at it as something to be got rid of no matter what. Think we have another 2 weeks at least before we hit 6-7C

Passed a field today where was plastered with slurry 2-3 weeks ago - theres an amount of grass on it now near coast tho..
And I wont even look in at a field of a lad down the road that blackened his silage fields around xmas - he'l be booking the contractor soon:D

Greengrass1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

http://www.met.ie/latest/agri_soiltemp.asp

I think it is too early to put out fertlizer or slurry unless you have dry land out beside Kruger Kavanaghs in Dingle. N in slurry is too valuable to me to waste if at all possible. Too many look at it as something to be got rid of no matter what. Think we have another 2 weeks at least before we hit 6-7C

I must check tomorrow but I'd be surprised if soil isn't 5°
Very mild here tonight

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I must check tomorrow but I'd be surprised if soil isn't 5°
Very mild here tonight

would it not take a few days for the temp to rise in the soil as it has been so cold?

Farmer Pudsey

whelan2 wrote: »

would it not take a few days for the temp to rise in the soil as it has been so cold?

It is soil temp at 4'' dept that they take. We are getting a light frost at night that is undoing anything the sun is doing during the day. Growth was very good until about mid Jan since then the low temp have droped Ground Temp and stopped growth. I be slow with fert until ground temp rise

Greengrass1

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I must check tomorrow but I'd be surprised if soil isn't 5°
Very mild here tonight

Soil temp just on 5 here this morning.
Can see bits of regrowth on what was grazed

stanflt

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Soil temp just on 5 here this morning.
Can see bits of regrowth on what was grazed

You shouldn't be able to see re growth

All I can see is slurry on grazed out paddocks

frazzledhome

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Soil temp just on 5 here this morning.
Can see bits of regrowth on what was grazed

3c here