Friend had my bank pin saved on their phone

LegacyUser

Dont even know how to confront my "Friend" about this why would he have it saved unless he planned/thought about robbing me.

Neyite

Presumably you've changed it with the bank now?

How did they get it in the first place from you?

zarquon

angryfish wrote: »

Dont even know how to confront my "Friend" about this why would he have it saved unless he planned/thought about robbing me.

Change your pin. Sounds like you were snooping on his phone too so you both have reason not to trust each other. Hardly the basis for a lasting friendship

uck51js9zml2yt

How do you know it was your pin. He may have the same for himself.

zoobizoo

Did you ask them to get money out for you at some stage and did you give them your pin?

If that's the case then maybe they feel that they'll ask you again. Remembering other people;s pins can be hard.

Big Bag of Chips

Context is everything. Did you ever give him your pin? Did you ever ask him to get money out for you? He may have typed it into his phone at that stage so as to not forget it, and just never deleted it/forgot to delete it.

You can change your pin at some bank machines. Do that, and don't let him see your pin again.

Yeah my first question is if you're sure it's yours and not his
Secondly just change yours and be as careful with it as you always should

LegacyUser

He gave me his old phone because mine broke, and it was saved in his contacts.

Ive obviously changed the pin now but it just makes me wonder and Ive never got him to take out money for me etc, however he would have been beside me when i was at bank machines etc

Tokyo

angryfish wrote: »

He gave me his old phone because mine broke, and it was saved in his contacts.

Ive obviously changed the pin now but it just makes me wonder and Ive never got him to take out money for me etc, however he would have been beside me when i was at bank machines etc

Are you sure it wasn't on your old phone, and transferred across with YOUR old contacts on the SIM card, or do you use the same PIN for your phone or similar, and stored it on your own phone to remember? Honestly it's beginning to sound more like something like this than anything else....

Stavro Mueller

Why on earth would you have your ATM PIN stored on your phone anyway?

Calibos

i've my pins disguised as a phone number....so I don't forget them...DUH!!

LegacyUser

mike_ie wrote: »

Are you sure it wasn't on your old phone, and transferred across with YOUR old contacts on the SIM card, or do you use the same PIN for your phone or similar, and stored it on your own phone to remember? Honestly it's beginning to sound more like something like this than anything else....

Ok this actually annoyed me of course im sure. I wouldnt take up space on this forum if i wasnt. Its a 4 digit number its not like IM going to forget it anytime soon.

Shrap

angryfish wrote: »

Ok this actually annoyed me of course im sure. I wouldnt take up space on this forum if i wasnt. Its a 4 digit number its not like IM going to forget it anytime soon.

Was it stored under your name? If not, could be a gate opening pin or anything really....

I think you're being a bit paranoid if it wasn't stored in connection with your name. This is a good friend (seemingly) who gave you his old phone.....with an incriminating pin on it??! He's either a good friend and you're making a mountain out of a molehill, or he's a dodgy friend who's a bit dim to say the least.

SterlingArcher

saving your pin as a contact would have been the quickest way to record the info. He no doubt did this moments after seeing your pin. Then never managed to get his hands on your card or decided it be too risky. Either way..


I'd say to him, thanks for the phone. Any reason you had my atm pin saved in it. Do it face to face so you can see his reaction. Then let him have it have it with both barrels.

Atlantic Dawn

Howvwas it saved in contacts did it say My Pin, Angryfish Pin ?

LegacyUser

Stavro Mueller wrote: »

So to summarise: your friend may know your PIN from standing beside you at ATMs. You borrowed his old phone and you saw exactly what? In the contacts angryfish 1357?

I think I'd talk to him, make a joke about it and say you saw a PIN that looked exactly like your old one on his phone. See what he says. It definitely sounds weird.

Saw my name followed by atm and the code

Stavro Mueller

angryfish wrote: »

Saw my name followed by atm and the code

Well that's about as unambiguous as you can get. Is this sort of behaviour out of character for your friend? (soon to be ex friend?)

Definitely try talking to him but don't go in feet first with accusations. Tell him you got his phone and noticed your name in the contacts along with ATM and your PIN. See what he has to say and make your own judgements from there.

Here's another thought that has just occurred to me. Are you the only person who has ever had that phone? Is there any chance that someone else in your circle had the loan of the handset before you did?

Big Bag of Chips

Your options are say something to him, or don't. To be honest I don't see the need for a thread if you are certain it was your pin.

What advice do you want... Say something to him, or don't! Change your pin. Always cover the keypad (the bank machine tells you that) and possibly drop this fella as a friend. I don't see what else people can say to you to be honest.

seventeen sheep

At any stage in the past, even years ago, could you ever have given him your card and asked him to go to the atm for you? Even while drunk, possibly? I know myself and my friends/family have sometimes done so for each other in the past ... I mightn't necessarily save the PIN as a contact, but I'd definitely type it into my phone at the time ...

(I'm not saying it's advisable to let others go to the ATM for you, but it's not that unusual either.)

sashafierce

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LegacyUser

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+ 1 If it's written as you say OP then I would do as suggested above and just outright ask him.

Miaireland

Are there other people's PIN numbers saved on the phione.

I think the only thing that you can do is ask him straight out why he has your pin number?

Jamaican Me Crazy

Just be careful that you are not making a mountain out of a molehill. Aside from having your PIN, your friend would need to get your card off you at some point un-noticed to get money from your account.

In this case I would be direct and ask but don't accuse.

I know my sisters PIN and my boyfriends and they know mine. I have given them my card to pay for something and vice versa. Do try to remember if your friend ever used your card to pay for something (your round of drinks but your friend went to the bar for you, for example??).

Hope you get it sorted anyway.

A slightly more left-field response - is there any chance you are simply feeling paranoid? Are you prone to a bit of paranoia?

What exactly was the PIN saved as? e.g. did it say 'angryfish's PIN' or have you just found a number sequence that matches your PIN?

Edit: Apologies - I see you've answered this. The only option is to ask him.

The Princess Bride

I once had a housemate, who was robbed by a supposedly good friend.
Long story short, the "friend" had memorised the PIN, stolen the bankcard and withdrew a substantial amount of money, replaced the bankcard ( over a period of a few days only)and carried on her daily routine.

A week later, realising her balance was unusually low, my housemate checked with bank and realised she had been robbed. She went to a relative who was a guard.
After an investigation, some very weird carry ons, it was narrowed down to a few definite suspects and the "friend" admitted to the theft.

Why am I telling you this ,OP?
Because there is absolutely no reason in the entire world why anyone would have your PIN saved on their phone, without your consent/knowledge.

Have a think about what you should do. I have to say, it doesn't look good.

Ah-Watch

It entered my mind would you have given him your card drunk before which to me is quite possible. I'm a freak when it comes to my PINs and passwords more than most just in the sense that I have different pins and passwords for everything. I remember one of the lads I used be in college with a pin( was a friend for years and would often have had to use it to pay for Petrol or get money out or shopping ) as we were such good friends. I know I've went to the ATM before for someone who wouldn't leave the bar on a night out so I would have saved their pin (probably dialed it into my phone as opposed to saved it in contacts) but never held onto it but it's possible you got them to go to the ATM on a night out for something. I know my best friends pin too. Again these are only to jog your memory and might not be the case for you but the only real way to know is by asking them

Lord PuppyMcSnuggle of Cuddleshire

Yeah it could be an innocent misunderstanding, but if it's not - then this person isn't your friend and you should be very careful. The problem with confronting them on this, is they might be able to come up with a plausible lie. It's not unheard of for sociopaths to have "friends". I knew someone who allegedly robbed money out of her friends coats while they were in the pub toilet... don't underestimate how slimy seemingly nice people can be.

Kathy22

OP you found it in a legit way as he gave you the phone. Just ask him and stop speculating. You will be able to judge by his reaction if he did it in a maicious way.