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Bvd query

  • 03-02-2015 9:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭


    What are the chances of calves being positive for bvd from first test failing second test?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Very high. I'm not sure but I think it's about 90%.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭LostCovey


    I wouldn't quibble with a 90% estimate Greysides - the voluntary phase of the AHI programme showed about 80% of positives remained positive on confirmatory test, but that could be higher by now with hopefully a lot less virus circulating and fewer TIs - hence more of the positives are prob PI now. The other reason that the 80% might be an underestimate is that these are the calves that were re-tested. A lot of calves that tested positive and were obviously abnormal/small/weak or that died wouldn't have been re-trested, so if you tested everything now I'd say it would not be far off 90%

    LC



    BVD in Ireland - key findings from the voluntary phase of the programme in 2012
    • 0.61%, 0.02%, 0.44% and 98.93% of calves tested gave positive, inconclusive, empty (no tissue present) and negative results on initial testing.
    • 18.1% of dairy herds and 11.6% of beef herds had one or more calves with an initial positive or inconclusive result, with the likelihood of testing positive increasing with herd size.
    • 80% of calves subject to confirmatory sampling tested positive (~20% transient infection rate).
    • 10% of dams tested following a positive calf result also tested positive (2-7 years old).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Omallep2


    LostCovey wrote: »
    I wouldn't quibble with a 90% estimate Greysides - the voluntary phase of the AHI programme showed about 80% of positives remained positive on confirmatory test, but that could be higher by now with hopefully a lot less virus circulating and fewer TIs - hence more of the positives are prob PI now. The other reason that the 80% might be an underestimate is that these are the calves that were re-tested. A lot of calves that tested positive and were obviously abnormal/small/weak or that died wouldn't have been re-trested, so if you tested everything now I'd say it would not be far off 90%

    LC



    BVD in Ireland - key findings from the voluntary phase of the programme in 2012
    • 0.61%, 0.02%, 0.44% and 98.93% of calves tested gave positive, inconclusive, empty (no tissue present) and negative results on initial testing.
    • 18.1% of dairy herds and 11.6% of beef herds had one or more calves with an initial positive or inconclusive result, with the likelihood of testing positive increasing with herd size.
    • 80% of calves subject to confirmatory sampling tested positive (~20% transient infection rate).
    • 10% of dams tested following a positive calf result also tested positive (2-7 years old).

    Thanks lads. What % of cows with positive calves proved positive the following year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,356 ✭✭✭tanko


    Omallep2 wrote: »
    Thanks lads. What % of cows with positive calves proved positive the following year?

    If the calf is a PI, you should get the mother tested. If she tests negative I'd imagine it's extremely unlikely she will have another PI calf the following year if you keep her.

    However a PI cow will always have a PI calf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,884 ✭✭✭mf240


    Had three pi calves in 2012 .

    Cow tested non pi and have calved non pi calves since.


    I was very reluctant to cull the calves, but did. Remarkable improvement in calf health since.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Omallep2


    mf240 wrote: »
    Had three pi calves in 2012 .

    Cow tested non pi and have calved non pi calves since.


    I was very reluctant to cull the calves, but did. Remarkable improvement in calf health since.

    Thanks mf240. Did you vaccinate post your issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,884 ✭✭✭mf240


    Omallep2 wrote: »
    Thanks mf240. Did you vaccinate post your issue?

    No didnt vacinate.


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