BBC Radio 4 analogue upc frequency

Technocentral

Anyone know what the frequency for R4 is when you stick cable into analogue radio tuner, was 96.35 thats gone now, or is it gone completely of UPC analogue radio? BBC R1 and World Service still there. I don't have Digital UPC just analogue from paying for their Broadband and my wifi is a bit patchy.

petronius

I get BBC Radio 4 on 96.4MHz FM - on UPC Analogue Radio - it is in mono.

Technocentral

petronius wrote:

I get BBC Radio 4 on 96.4MHz FM - on UPC Analogue Radio - it is in mono.

Mine is overode by a crappy pirate station on that frequency.

coylemj

96.3 Mhz here in Dublin, in stereo and no interference.

OP, I assume you have the UPC FM co-ax running into your amplifier. By any chance do you have a Y connector also feeding a signal from an FM antenna?

Technocentral

coylemj wrote: »

96.3 Mhz here in Dublin, in stereo and no interference.

OP, I assume you have the UPC FM co-ax running into your amplifier. By any chance do you have a Y connector also feeding a signal from an FM antenna?

Hi

No other antenna, just an rf in from upc wall connection, its just a single output no fm out, does that make difference, all other stations (World Service etc) are fine though?

SPDUB

coylemj wrote: »

96.3 Mhz here in Dublin, in stereo and no interference.

OP, I assume you have the UPC FM co-ax running into your amplifier. By any chance do you have a Y connector also feeding a signal from an FM antenna?

I had that problem of a pirate station obliterating Radio 4 a number of years back mainly because it was transmitting locally

The only way I could deal with it was by complaining to Comreg ( felt a bit dirty doing that as I am a fan of pirate radio )

Antenna

Technocentral
is the 96.4 station in question not actually licenced community station Liffey Sound FM?
http://liffeysoundfm.ie

If you have a TV that is capable of DVB-C (as well as DVB-T for terrestrial) you could tune in the digital upc radio stations on the TV, some TVs allow the screen to be turned off to save energy when used for radio.

The above isn't the only example of strong signals in the air affecting cable signals, RTE's DAB frequency bandwidth is over BBC2 TV on analogue cable in Dublin and in areas near 3rock if the DAB signal leaks in it causes noise on the picture (as if the signal was gone weak).
It can be minimised by using better quality cable, metal (not plastic) splitters, screened wall sockets etc

coylemj

If the feed is from a co-ax cable coming off the UPC wall box then he shouldn't be getting interference from anywhere. For example, I have the FM port on my UPC wall box connected to the FM antenna port on my amp and I get BBC R2 on 90.1 Mhz even though that frequency is now being used (legally) by Spirit FM. So on any FM radio in the house I get Spirit FM on 90.1 but on the amp I get a clear BBC R2 signal from the Divis transmitter via UPC.

Edit: Spirit FM broadcasts officially to Dublin on 89.9 Mhz but I can also pick up the Waterford signal on 90.1, I get noise on 90.0 so it's definitely the Waterford 90.1 signal I can pick up if I manually tune to that frequency, doesn't interfere with the UPC signal for BBC R2.

coylemj

Technocentral wrote: »

Hi

No other antenna, just an rf in from upc wall connection, its just a single output no fm out, does that make difference, all other stations (World Service etc) are fine though?

You say that your only subscription is for broadband, did you split the signal yourself? Most UPC wall boxes have two ports - one for TV and/or broadband, the other for FM. If you have a subscription for broadband and digital TV and you don't have a Horizon box, they will install a splitter.

Technocentral

Antenna wrote: »

Technocentral
is the 96.4 station in question not actually licenced community station Liffey Sound FM?
http://liffeysoundfm.ie

If you have a TV that is capable of DVB-C (as well as DVB-T for terrestrial) you could tune in the digital upc radio stations on the TV, some TVs allow the screen to be turned off to save energy when used for radio.

The above isn't the only example of strong signals in the air affecting cable signals, RTE's DAB frequency bandwidth is over BBC2 TV on analogue cable in Dublin and in areas near 3rock if the DAB signal leaks in it causes noise on the picture (as if the signal was gone weak).
It can be minimised by using better quality cable, metal (not plastic) splitters, screened wall sockets etc

Hi just tried again, station ident is Eastcoast FM.

Technocentral

coylemj wrote: »

You say that your only subscription is for broadband, did you split the signal yourself? Most UPC wall boxes have two ports - one for TV and/or broadband, the other for FM. If you have a subscription for broadband and digital TV and you don't have a Horizon box, they will install a splitter.

Hi live in flat in a house, pay guy next door for using his wifi, room has just one point with one output with analogue tv, BBC R2, R1 and Ulster perfect, guess I'll just have to live with R4 on wifi.

coylemj

Technocentral wrote: »

Hi live in flat in a house, pay guy next door for using his wifi, room has just one point with one output with analogue tv, BBC R2, R1 and Ulster perfect, guess I'll just have to live with R4 on wifi.

Is the UPC point in the other guy's flat or yours? I'm thinking there's some kind of illegal amateur cabling involved which is causing the cable to pickup a local FM signal. If anyone from Cablelink/UPC visited that premises in the past 20 years, you should have two co-ax ports on the wall box.

Technocentral wrote: »

Hi just tried again, station ident is Eastcoast FM.

You're picking up the Bray signal on 96.2 Mhz. Which should not be happening as you have no FM antenna Are you in the vicinity of that transmitter?

http://www.eastcoast.fm/listen/transmission

I get BBC R4 on 96.4, you mentioned 96.35, maybe you need to go up 0.5 Mhz?

marno21

coylemj wrote: »

If the feed is from a co-ax cable coming off the UPC wall box then he shouldn't be getting interference from anywhere. For example, I have the FM port on my UPC wall box connected to the FM antenna port on my amp and I get BBC R2 on 90.1 Mhz even though that frequency is now being used (legally) by Spirit FM. So on any FM radio in the house I get Spirit FM on 90.1 but on the amp I get a clear BBC R2 signal from the Divis transmitter via UPC.

Edit: Spirit FM broadcasts officially to Dublin on 89.9 Mhz but I can also pick up the Waterford signal on 90.1, I get noise on 90.0 so it's definitely the Waterford 90.1 signal I can pick up if I manually tune to that frequency, doesn't interfere with the UPC signal for BBC R2.

That's not the Waterford TX, there's also a TX on 90.1 for the Bray area. There was furore when it was turned on as it was clashing with the R2 signal from Divis.

Technocentral

coylemj wrote:

I get BBC R4 on 96.4, you mentioned 96.35, maybe you need to go up 0.5 Mhz?

96.40 is just a detuned east coast, am in Drumcondra, point is in my place was there when I moved in a year ago.

coylemj

marno21 wrote: »

That's not the Waterford TX, there's also a TX on 90.1 for the Bray area. There was furore when it was turned on as it was clashing with the R2 signal from Divis.

Thanks, I was going to write to the BAI to complain about a 'local' FM signal reaching all the way from Waterford to Dublin

It's not mentioned on the banner on their homepage but if you scroll down as I have just done, Spirit FM lists a Bray/Greystones signal on 90.1, the same as their Waterford signal....