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Approx cost of repairs for my 2000 Ford Puma

  • 30-01-2015 3:50pm
    #1
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭


    So unfortunately my 1.4 2000 Ford Puma failed the NCT.

    I got a quote from a local garage but it seems to be excessive even considering labour costs. The following need to be replaced for it to pass.

    1. Rear axle and wishbone bushes on both sides of the rear suspension
    2. Mounting on offside rear shock absorber
    3. Exhaust back box as it is leaking

    Any ideas of cost and garage recommendations in and around the Templeogue area would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    L.


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  • #2
    christy02
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    lnichol86 wrote: »
    So unfortunately my 1.4 2000 Ford Puma failed the NCT.

    I got a quote from a local garage but it seems to be excessive even considering labour costs. The following need to be replaced for it to pass.

    1. Rear axle and wishbone bushes on both sides of the rear suspension
    2. Mounting on offside rear shock absorber
    3. Exhaust back box as it is leaking

    Any ideas of cost and garage recommendations in and around the Templeogue area would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    L.

    How much was the quote for?


  • #3
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭lnichol86


    christy02 wrote: »
    How much was the quote for?

    He quoted me €445 although he seemed to think that the whole shock absorber would need to be replaced and kept talking about the front suspension even though I told him it was the rear. I think the breakdown was 80 and 120 for two parts for the exhaust, 100 each for full shock replacement (he seemed to think the mounting etc couldn't be replaced on their own), and then 45 for wheel alignment.

    I did a bit of research online and it seems to me that the wishbone bushes and mounting can be replaced separately and are fairly cheap but then again I know zero about cars.

    I didn't pay much for the car in general and just thought it seemed excessive considering I did also mention I only wanted what was required to pass the NCT.


  • #4
    LacticAthlete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭LacticAthlete


    Seems like a bit of a chancer, have you tried an actual ford dealer??


  • #5
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭lnichol86


    LacticAthlete wrote: »
    Seems like a bit of a chancer, have you tried an actual ford dealer??

    Yeah, was on to a dealer yesterday. Waiting to hear back.


  • #6
    Duke O Smiley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    LacticAthlete wrote: »
    Seems like a bit of a chancer, have you tried an actual ford dealer??

    Do not do this op. A main dealer won't be as cheap. Going to a main dealer with a 14 year old car is ludicrous.


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  • #7
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭lnichol86


    Duke O Smiley wrote: »
    Do not do this op. A main dealer won't be as cheap. Going to a main dealer with a 14 year old car is ludicrous.

    Any ideas on what I might be looking at price wise Duke? In a normal garage I mean.


  • #8
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,585 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    LacticAthlete wrote: »
    Seems like a bit of a chancer, have you tried an actual ford dealer??

    Maybe he is a good mechanic and knows that the front bushes are also worn, something that is actually incredibly likely? Maybe the OP should consider making the car safe to drive rather than doing the bare minimum to get a piece of paper. Crazy talk I know.


  • #9
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭lnichol86


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Maybe he is a good mechanic and knows that the front bushes are also worn, something that is actually incredibly likely? Maybe the OP should consider making the car safe to drive rather than doing the bare minimum to get a piece of paper. Crazy talk I know.

    Oh I appreciate that but I did tell him that I did just want a quote for the things that the NCT failed me on. I didn't pay much for the car so I won't be pumping too much into it. I need it to be road worthy for another year and that's it.


  • #10
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭lnichol86


    Anyway, no point getting into whether he's a good mechanic or not, I'm just wondering if anyone knows what price I might be looking at for the parts that I listed above and the labour, rather than having the whole shock absorber replaced which was included in the initial quote.

    Thanks,

    L.


  • #11
    ianobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    OP, when it comes to bushing replacement, labour is the killer, not the parts. The reason is that it can be bloody labour intensive to get them out and one always goes wrong. They are generally pushed out with a press and some leave a metal collar that have to be cut out, if things go well. I've seen mechanic friends having to cut, drill and burn them out. For the rear shocks, at €100 for the replacement, you'll probably pay more for the bushing and the labour for changing the bushings, and still have old shocks.

    Also, you may have been causing some confusion as the rear suspension of the Puma doesn't have any wishbones. It has a rear beam axle. The only wishbones in the car are in the front and that's where the confusion with the mechanic probably came from.


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  • #12
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭lnichol86


    ianobrien wrote: »
    OP, when it comes to bushing replacement, labour is the killer, not the parts. The reason is that it can be bloody labour intensive to get them out and one always goes wrong. They are generally pushed out with a press and some leave a metal collar that have to be cut out, if things go well. I've seen mechanic friends having to cut, drill and burn them out. For the rear shocks, at €100 for the replacement, you'll probably pay more for the bushing and the labour for changing the bushings, and still have old shocks.

    Also, you may have been causing some confusion as the rear suspension of the Puma doesn't have any wishbones. It has a rear beam axle. The only wishbones in the car are in the front and that's where the confusion with the mechanic probably came from.

    I see. Yeah like I said I don't know much about cars but the NCT report says axle and wishbone bushing on the offside and nearside in the Rear suspension system so was just quoting that. Strange that the NCT mechanic would state that if they don't exist?


  • #13
    ianobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    lnichol86 wrote: »
    I see. Yeah like I said I don't know much about cars but the NCT report says axle and wishbone bushing on the offside and nearside in the Rear suspension system so was just quoting that. Strange that the NCT mechanic would state that if they don't exist?

    They could be calling the rear beam bushing a wishbone bushing. I don't know for certain but the NCT could have a defined set of vocabulary for different components.

    You know how some organisations have definitions and terms that dont make sense. This could be a case of this.


  • #14
    lnichol86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭lnichol86


    ianobrien wrote: »
    They could be calling the rear beam bushing a wishbone bushing. I don't know for certain but the NCT could have a defined set of vocabulary for different components.

    You know how some organisations have definitions and terms that dont make sense. This could be a case of this.

    Yeah could be the case. Thanks for the reply anyway, hopefully I can get an affordable quote somewhere!


  • #15
    goz83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    Forget what you spent on the car. Spend what you need to be driving a safe car, not to be driving an accident waiting to happen with a valid disc in the windscreen. It is shocking what the nct can miss.

    At the very least, when you are seeking another quote, ask for a second opinion on the front suspension and overall condition of the car. Money spent today with prudence might just save a lot of hurt in the future.


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