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Al gore wants to spend $90 trillion redesigning every city on Earth.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Climate change aside, it's in every city's future interest to become as energy efficient as possible.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought this was satire when I first saw it. Apparently not...



    Oh no, he's super serial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    where will he put his swimming pool?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Climate change aside, it's in every city's future interest to become as energy efficient as possible.

    Sure. But do you want to live in Al Gores dystopian wet dream? You can be sure that Gore, with many ostentatious mansions to choose from, won't be living packed into one of the sardine cities with the little people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    World military expenditure is in 2-2.5tn bracket so we could do it with no extra taxes in a couple of generations of we were serious about it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Al gore wants to spend $90 trillion redesigning every city on Earth.

    I suspect the Sindo are actually behind this. A fiendish scheme to get the construction sector roaring again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Ultimately, this will have to happen anyway. Populations are too scattered, even in big cities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Al gore wants to spend $90 trillion and you'll never guess on what!!!!!

    "Turns out the $90 trillion is the total of infrastructure investment that is likely to be spent anyway building and upgrading cities. Gore and Calderon are arguing that it be spent more wisely, to produce cities that don't incentivize people to burn fossil fuels just to get from A to B."

    No need for a click-bait headline, it's actually quite reasonable stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Who's got 90 trillion handy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    Down the back of the mega sofa!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    It's stories like this which remind you why the Republican party is so popular in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Ultimately, this will have to happen anyway. Populations are too scattered, even in big cities

    It would be a lot easier to control vast numbers of people too when they are all packed into relatively small areas with no personal transport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Apartment living is perfectly reasonable if the apartment developments are properly designed and built. Here in Germany the size and quality of apartment developments are in marked contrast to the pokey little dens of misery found in many parts of Ireland. For example, I was able to have a sauna installed in my apartment last year. Hardly achievable if I had to live in a Liam Carroll built flat off the South Circular Road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Would it be a Hiroshima style demolition of existing structures?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    It would be a lot easier to control vast numbers of people too when they are all packed into relatively small areas with no personal transport.

    You say that like it's a bad thing. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Would it be a Hiroshima style demolition of existing structures?

    "Turns out the $90 trillion is the total of infrastructure investment that is likely to be spent anyway building and upgrading cities. Gore and Calderon are arguing that it be spent more wisely, to produce cities that don't incentivize people to burn fossil fuels just to get from A to B."


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    He lives here:

    http://www.urbansplatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/bs2-jpg.jpeg

    Something about practice and preaching..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,124 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Kinda misleading article and thread title tbh. $90 trillion is the projected cost for investment needed to modernise and upgrade city infrastructure worldwide.

    Gore and Calderon are just suggesting that the money be spent in a smarter more forward looking way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Kinda misleading article and thread title tbh. $90 trillion is the projected cost for investment needed to modernise and upgrade city infrastructure worldwide.

    Gore and Calderon are just suggesting that the money be spent in a smarter more forward looking way.

    Yeah, I'm surprised by how many posters reply with criticisms of the plan based on the headline of the thread alone :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,057 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Kinda misleading article and thread title tbh. $90 trillion is the projected cost for investment needed to modernise and upgrade city infrastructure worldwide.

    Gore and Calderon are just suggesting that the money be spent in a smarter more forward looking way.

    A smarter way of spending the money would not be carbon trading (another comodities market for traders) or this guff. If we spent the bloodly money on researching 22nd century technologies, rather then medieval ones like windmills, I'm pretty sure that I only be charging my iPhone's graphine battery every 30,000 years or so from the cold fusion reactor under my sink in the kitchen by now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    A ****ty solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
    My fav bit was the picture of a ship on top of a building.

    He's lost it since he invented the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    conorhal wrote: »
    A smarter way of spending the money would not be carbon trading (another comodities market for traders) or this guff. If we spent the bloodly money on researching 22nd century technologies, rather then medieval ones like windmills, I'm pretty sure that I only be charging my iPhone's graphine battery every 30,000 years or so from the cold fusion reactor under my sink in the kitchen by now!

    I'd love to see huge sums put into developing new technologies but it's too risky to assume we'll invent something that'll fix everything in the future. Better to fix what we know are problems now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭oceanman


    You say that like it's a bad thing. :p
    Id say most people would think its a bad thing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭stillalive88


    qt3.14 wrote: »
    World military expenditure is in 2-2.5tn bracket so we could do it with no extra taxes in a couple of generations of we were serious about it

    Would not be too bad of an idea. Considering how much times have changed, most european cities are designed on medieval standards...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭Areyouwell


    Al gore wants to spend $90 trillion redesigning every city on Earth.

    Or maybe we should use it to make sure, that everybody has enough food in their stomach and a warm cosy roof over their head at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Could they not just plant some nice trees here-and-there and use bicycles a bit more in city centres?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    I thought this was satire when I first saw it. Apparently not...

    So it's just cars that cause greenhouse emissions, is it? How do you transport goods between cities? Exactly....TRUCKS. How are people going to get out to the countryside? OK maybe in an electric car or electric train. But some of the biggest contributors to fossil fuel emissions are ships and aircraft. Until you get electric ships and planes in action your lack of cars is not going to solve the problem.

    You need your fuckin head tested, Gore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    Where will he put the Polar bears?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    There be self sufficient garden skyscrapers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Sure. But do you want to live in Al Gores dystopian wet dream? You can be sure that Gore, with many ostentatious mansions to choose from, won't be living packed into one of the sardine cities with the little people.
    I'd rather live in Al Gore's dystopian wet dream than modern Dublin. It's impossible to rent a decent apartment in this city.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Soylent green is people!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Egginacup wrote: »
    So it's just cars that cause greenhouse emissions, is it? How do you transport goods between cities? Exactly....TRUCKS. How are people going to get out to the countryside? OK maybe in an electric car or electric train. But some of the biggest contributors to fossil fuel emissions are ships and aircraft. Until you get electric ships and planes in action your lack of cars is not going to solve the problem.

    You need your fuckin head tested, Gore.
    Pretty sure cars give off more gases than trunk, planes or ships.

    Don't get me wrong I enjoy cars as much as the next guy but they may not be feasible in the future and while planes and trucks are necessary personal cars just, aren't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I'm a bit confused at the outrage - isn't that what you'd want if you decide to go live in a city?
    The convenience of having everything close by and not needing a car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭stevedublin


    Who's got 90 trillion handy?

    central banks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    What Al Gore's nightmares look like:



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,861 ✭✭✭stimpson


    For example, I was able to have a sauna installed in my apartment last year.

    That's the third time in the past few weeks I've read about your sauna that you have in your apartment. You like being sweaty - we get it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Look at how Mega City One turned out.

    No need for cars unless you are travelling across the mutant infested wasteland between cities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Look at how Mega City One turned out.

    No need for cars unless you are travelling across the mutant infested wasteland between cities.

    A headlight pierced the darkness,
    A rider gaunt and grim,
    Daystick drawn and ready in his hand.
    The chin belonged to Dredd,
    And the voice as well, which said:
    "You creeps can do your rumbling in the can!"

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    That man has serious psychological issues. It's whacko's like him that want us all going back to the horse and cart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Who's got 90 trillion handy?
    we do and we're spending it anyway.
    Yeah, I'm surprised by how many posters reply with criticisms of the plan based on the headline of the thread alone :)
    That's how modern journalism works, you've got a headline make it count. don't worry about being informative, just make sure you stoke up the angry mob.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Look at how Mega City One turned out.

    No need for cars unless you are travelling across the mutant infested wasteland between cities.

    The Wild Atlantic Way I believe it's called.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Muckie


    Adamantium wrote: »
    The Wild Atlantic Way I believe it's called.

    LOL....drove that way a few months back....

    hordes of sheep/muties rambling around, some crazy roads thru the hills.

    Nice escape from civilisation though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,770 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Al Gore has invested millions in green technology, and has made many times in returns.

    He says he is putting his money where his mouth is, but he is also acting in self interest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Does it really matter?

    Didn't the last of us teach us that most of the population will be wiped out by a fungal infection and antoniobanderas.gif will live on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    He lives here:

    http://www.urbansplatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/bs2-jpg.jpeg

    Something about practice and preaching..
    Yes, him and the 4,592 people he will be supporting in his utopian template will be living there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Why don't we just face facts and go nuclear on the problem? I say we launch enough nukes randomly distributed at major population centres worldwide to kill ~3 billion people. Due to the devastating nature of the after-effects of the attacks, I can confidently predict another billion or so to die in the years after.

    But we'd have sorted out climate change, population and resource explosion etc etc. The new guys to arise from the ashes, they'd know about the environmental concerns etc that we've encountered and thusly avoid it. We'd really be saving humanity. Some might say that we'd be heroes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,565 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Egginacup wrote: »
    So it's just cars that cause greenhouse emissions, is it? How do you transport goods between cities? Exactly....TRUCKS. How are people going to get out to the countryside? OK maybe in an electric car or electric train. But some of the biggest contributors to fossil fuel emissions are ships and aircraft. Until you get electric ships and planes in action your lack of cars is not going to solve the problem.

    You need your fuckin head tested, Gore.

    transporting goods is for the most part required in order for society to function, 90% of private car journeys are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    c_man wrote: »
    Why don't we just face facts and go nuclear on the problem? I say we launch enough nukes randomly distributed at major population centres worldwide to kill ~3 billion people. Due to the devastating nature of the after-effects of the attacks, I can confidently predict another billion or so to die in the years after.

    But we'd have sorted out climate change, population and resource explosion etc etc. The new guys to arise from the ashes, they'd know about the environmental concerns etc that we've encountered and thusly avoid it. We'd really be saving humanity. Some might say that we'd be heroes.

    I wonder should we pray that terrorists get their hands on a few nuclear weapons... before it's too late :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭SeanW


    It would be a lot easier to control vast numbers of people too when they are all packed into relatively small areas with no personal transport.
    You say that like it's a bad thing. :p

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