CPD

smallgarden

Hello,
I'm just wondering if you do CPD related to your school role during school hours, with principals permission, should you get paid for that day. I'm a non casual part time teacher covering maternity leave. I'd guess that if an RPT or permanent teacher you would.
thanks

evolving_doors

never heard of anyone ever getting paid for any cpd.. esp during school hours.

At the very most you might get course fees paid if its not too much. Dunno if primary teachers get EPV if they do courses outside hours! I'd just be delighted to get out of the classroom for a change.

rainbowtrout

I think the OP means that will they get paid for the maternity cover they are providing while they are away doing CPD for the day.

I haven't a clue, but if you are considered to be away on school business and your classes are covered, then maybe. Ask your principal.

smallgarden

I don't mean paid extra. I just mean if I'm normally paid 10hrs for the week, I still get paid for 10hrs.

gaeilgebeo

smallgarden wrote: »

I don't mean paid extra. I just mean if I'm normally paid 10hrs for the week, I still get paid for 10hrs.

I'm not sure as a sub because surely someone else has to sub your classes?
Maybe things have change from when I subbed (donkeys years ago!), but I only ever got paid for classes I taught.
I hope you do get paid.

evolving_doors

smallgarden wrote: »

I don't mean paid extra. I just mean if I'm normally paid 10hrs for the week, I still get paid for 10hrs.

Ok Gotcha (Thanks Rainbowtrout!).

I would imagine schools would look favourably on someone interested in CPD, esp. if you are going to use it in your teaching (and you might be around the school for longer than they are letting you know!). Who knows, if you sell it right to the VP and have asked other colleagues if they can cover classes in advance, then you might be treated the same as any other teacher on an inservice!

seavill

I wasn't allowed go on cpd day for new DCG course bout 5 years ago because I was technically a sub and they couldn't get a sub in for a sub.
If the principal agrees to cover you from S&C you should get paid. If you are only 10 hours wouldn't be many classes to cover in a day so I reasonavle principal should be ok to deal with there.
But as I said as far as I am aware you can't get a sub for a sub so if someone came in to replace you they would be paid not you. I'm open to correction though just my understanding

evolving_doors

seavill wrote: »

I wasn't allowed go on cpd day for new DCG course bout 5 years ago because I was technically a sub and they couldn't get a sub in for a sub.
If the principal agrees to cover you from S&C you should get paid. If you are only 10 hours wouldn't be many classes to cover in a day so I reasonavle principal should be ok to deal with there.
But as I said as far as I am aware you can't get a sub for a sub so if someone came in to replace you they would be paid not you. I'm open to correction though just my understanding

how about if you got colleagues to cover!

seavill

Never tried to get colleagues to cover. I personally wouldn't like to go down that route as I think it may start to give the principal ideas that other CPD days could be covered without S&S or subs.
In reality the OP shouldn't have to be going asking for favors or owing people a class back at some stage to cover. Not fair on the OP or their colleagues however I couldn't see a principal turning down that option if it was given to them.

evolving_doors

depends on the school I spse. Weve no problem with getting colleagues to cover as a favour as it means they know who to come to first if they need a favour (have to clear it with vice principal first though!).
Also regular teachers on cpd goes under s&s...

smallgarden

Most of the times due to my role i wouldn't need cover. I'm not a temporary sub. I'm non casual which is treated a little different from being a sub in for just a few weeks. It seems to depend on the school rather than a set policy though. Thanks for all your help