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subwoofer set up confusion

  • 24-01-2015 12:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,314 ✭✭✭


    Hi ,

    Hope it is ok to ask some advice on cross over levels as the internet has me confused.

    Should the crossover on my sub (Tannoy) be set at the max and on the receiver (Denon) should I accept the audessy settings or set at 80 hz?

    Thanks,
    jh79


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  • Company Representative Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭Richersounds.ie: Kenny


    jh79 wrote: »
    Hi  ,

    Hope it is ok to ask some advice on cross over levels as the internet has me confused.

    Should the crossover on my sub (Tannoy) be set at the max and on the receiver  (Denon) should I accept the audessy settings or set at 80 hz?

    Thanks,
    jh79
    Hi Jh79.

    Have a little watch over the following video:
    http://lifehacker.com/how-to-properly-set-your-subwoofers-volume-without-sh-1506136549
    There is also a few steps on setting a sub up.

    What had the Audessy setting came up with for the subwoofer?

    Sometimes its just better to try a few different setups and see which suits you better, some people like a lot of bass and others not so much.

    Let me know if this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,314 ✭✭✭jh79


    Hi Jh79.

    Have a little watch over the following video:
    http://lifehacker.com/how-to-properly-set-your-subwoofers-volume-without-sh-1506136549
    There is also a few steps on setting a sub up.

    What had the Audessy setting came up with for the subwoofer?

    Sometimes its just better to try a few different setups and see which suits you better, some people like a lot of bass and others not so much.

    Let me know if this helps.

    Audessy has the front to 100hz, center to 60hz and surround to 120hz. The lfe is set to 120hz for bass.

    I had the crossover on the sub itself set to the lowest (50hz), should i put this to the highest level?


  • Company Representative Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭Richersounds.ie: Kenny


    jh79 wrote: »
    Hi Jh79.

    Have a little watch over the following video:
    http://lifehacker.com/how-to-properly-set-your-subwoofers-volume-without-sh-1506136549
    There is also a few steps on setting a sub up.

    What had the Audessy setting came up with for the subwoofer?

    Sometimes its just better to try a few different setups and see which suits you better, some people like a lot of bass and others not so much.

    Let me know if this helps.

    Audessy has the front to 100hz, center to 60hz and surround to 120hz. The lfe is set to 120hz for bass.

    I had the crossover on the sub itself set to the lowest  (50hz), should i put this to the highest level?
    Hi Jh79.

    I would not set it to the highest level.

    Here are the points listed in the above link:
    1. 1.First, set the crossover. This is the frequency at which your subwoofer starts playing bass notes. You generally want your crossover set to where your speakers start to roll off—for example, my speakers can't go much lower than 80Hz, so my subwoofer's crossover is set to about 80. You can find this in your speaker's specs, or just slowly turn it up until it "rounds out" the sound on your speakers (so that your speakers and subwoofer aren't both playing the same notes).
    2. 2.Next, adjust the gain. This is the important part, and the part that I've done incorrectly oh-so-many times—but it's also the easiest. Start playing a song, and turn the subwoofer down until you can't hear the subwoofer anymore. Then, turn the gain up just enough so you can start to hear it start to fill in the bass. That's all it takes.
    3. 3.Lastly, if you have a phase switch, switch it between 0 and 180 degrees and see if you hear a difference. One may sound better than the other depending on your room and gear but in practice, it's pretty simple: pick whichever one sounds better.
    I would turn the Hz down on the Denon but that's only me. Check the rating of the sats in the manual and try and run the sub around the Hz on these as noted in point one above.

    On the rear of the sub, try a few different settings as there is no real right position. Its more setting it up how you want it to sound. start at the lowest point and work upwards until you get the sound/feel that suits.

    Hope this help a little further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,314 ✭✭✭jh79


    Hi Jh79.

    I would not set it to the highest level.

    Here are the points listed in the above link:
    1. 1.First, set the crossover. This is the frequency at which your subwoofer starts playing bass notes. You generally want your crossover set to where your speakers start to roll off—for example, my speakers can't go much lower than 80Hz, so my subwoofer's crossover is set to about 80. You can find this in your speaker's specs, or just slowly turn it up until it "rounds out" the sound on your speakers (so that your speakers and subwoofer aren't both playing the same notes).
    2. 2.Next, adjust the gain. This is the important part, and the part that I've done incorrectly oh-so-many times—but it's also the easiest. Start playing a song, and turn the subwoofer down until you can't hear the subwoofer anymore. Then, turn the gain up just enough so you can start to hear it start to fill in the bass. That's all it takes.
    3. 3.Lastly, if you have a phase switch, switch it between 0 and 180 degrees and see if you hear a difference. One may sound better than the other depending on your room and gear but in practice, it's pretty simple: pick whichever one sounds better.
    I would turn the Hz down on the Denon but that's only me. Check the rating of the sats in the manual and try and run the sub around the Hz on these as noted in point one above.

    On the rear of the sub, try a few different settings as there is no real right position. Its more setting it up how you want it to sound. start at the lowest point and work upwards until you get the sound/feel that suits.

    Hope this help a little further.

    Thanks for your help, what had me confused was a website that mentioned cascading and that the crossover on the sub needed to be disabled to allow the receiver to manage it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,314 ✭✭✭jh79


    The tannoy speakers have a range of 140 to 78hz and a crossover of 140hz to the sub. So anything between these figures is ok?


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  • Company Representative Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭Richersounds.ie: Kenny


    jh79 wrote: »
    Hi Jh79.

    I would not set it to the highest level.

    Here are the points listed in the above link:
    • 1.First, set the crossover. This is the frequency at which your subwoofer starts playing bass notes. You generally want your crossover set to where your speakers start to roll off—for example, my speakers can't go much lower than 80Hz, so my subwoofer's crossover is set to about 80. You can find this in your speaker's specs, or just slowly turn it up until it "rounds out" the sound on your speakers (so that your speakers and subwoofer aren't both playing the same notes).
    • 2.Next, adjust the gain. This is the important part, and the part that I've done incorrectly oh-so-many times—but it's also the easiest. Start playing a song, and turn the subwoofer down until you can't hear the subwoofer anymore. Then, turn the gain up just enough so you can start to hear it start to fill in the bass. That's all it takes.
    • 3.Lastly, if you have a phase switch, switch it between 0 and 180 degrees and see if you hear a difference. One may sound better than the other depending on your room and gear but in practice, it's pretty simple: pick whichever one sounds better.


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    I would turn the Hz down on the Denon but that's only me. Check the rating of the sats in the manual and try and run the sub around the Hz on these as noted in point one above.

    On the rear of the sub, try a few different settings as there is no real right position. Its more setting it up how you want it to sound. start at the lowest point and work upwards until you get the sound/feel that suits.

    Hope this help a little further.
    [*]

    Thanks for your help, what had me confused was a website that mentioned cascading and that the crossover on the sub needed to be disabled to allow the receiver to manage it.
    [*]
    Hi Jh79.

    No problem at all.

    Hopefully you get the sound for the sub sorted and you can sit back a enjoy your system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,314 ✭✭✭jh79


    jh79 wrote: »
    The tannoy speakers have a range of 140 to 78hz and a crossover of 140hz to the sub. So anything between these figures is ok?

    Last question , I swear, based on these figures would 80hz work best?


  • Company Representative Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭Richersounds.ie: Kenny


    jh79 wrote: »
    jh79 wrote: »
    The tannoy speakers have a range of 140 to 78hz and a crossover of 140hz to the sub. So anything between these figures is ok?

    Last question , I swear, based on these figures would 80hz work best?
    Hi Jh79.

    In theory around the 80Hz should do it.

    However I would taken 10 minutes and play around with the settings to get the sound which best suits your ear.


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