recruitment agents

monflat

Hi

Are recruitment agents generally pushy or do they do anything to get a candidate into a job.

Basically Im on a job hunt .
I haven't used a recruitment agency in over 12 yrs.

I told them what I want regarding working hours distance to work etc. .

he told me about three potential places .
Went for an interview to one but its too far to commute . I told him this as I have 3 young children however hes pushing the issue that its only 2 days a week ..

I said I don't want to take a position just because and know its not right and leave within a few months of starting.

I explained this to the person intervewin me I said it possibly could be too far to drive.

Are recruitment agents just out for one thing ? = to place a candidate regardless ?

dpofloinn

monflat wrote: »

Are recruitment agents just out for one thing ? = to place a candidate regardless ?

Bingo

monflat

dpofloinn wrote: »

Bingo

Yes but is it more a reflection on this guy if he constantly places people whom the job does not suit. ?

CreepingDeath

monflat wrote: »

Are recruitment agents just out for one thing ? = to place a candidate regardless ?

Yes.

They couldn't care less if you're happy or not, as long as they get paid.
They will only have a very small selection of vacancies in front of them, and will try forcing a square peg into a round hole anyway they can.

They will lie, exaggerate, say that some role is only temporary and you'll be moved to a nicer part of the company after X months, or massive career opportunities etc...

In permanent I.T. positions, I think they get paid in instalments if the candidate stays 3 months, then 6 months.

Trust recruitment agents like you would estate agents or second hand car salesmen.

dpofloinn

No it is a common trait amongst all recruiters, simply because when you are earning they are earning. To give you an example from personal experience . I submitted a CV to a well known recruitment company who would call me at least twice a day for months to offer me the same job that I was not qualified to do, because by quickly scanning my CV some of my skills matched what they were looking for . No amount of persuasion would convince them that it was not a suitable position. I kept getting the ''sure will you give it a go''

monflat

Thanks so much for your replies.
My phone call today with him was along lines of if I could' get you a more attractive hourly rate would you consider it. .

I specified that it would take me over an hour to get to work of a frosty morning. He was throwing everything at me like its only 2 days a week.
And yes yes yes he used that phrase " sure give it a go" .

Right il follow my heart by knowing im not settling for anything that might not suit.

Eoin

monflat wrote: »

Are recruitment agents just out for one thing ? = to place a candidate regardless ?

To be pedantic - but it's a relevant distinction - they're not out to place a candidate; they're out to fill a vacancy for their customer. You're just a product to them.

It's only really a bad reflection on him (in any way that actually matters to him) if the employer is unhappy with the candidate.

Mrs OBumble

That must be a position that they're finding it very hard to fill. I'm surprised that they're pressuring you, vs finding someone else for it. Unless you've got some very specialist skills, or they think they can't place you anywhere else.

A recruiter is basically a sales person. I've expereienced them being very useful, getting an employer to consider someone (me) who they wouldn't have otherwise. But do always have to remember who's paying them and what for. And sometimes you have to be quite firm.

monflat

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That must be a position that they're finding it very hard to fill. I'm surprised that they're pressuring you, vs finding someone else for it. Unless you've got some very specialist skills, or they think they can't place you anywhere else.

A recruiter is basically a sales person. I've expereienced them being very useful, getting an employer to consider someone (me) who they wouldn't have otherwise. But do always have to remember who's paying them and what for. And sometimes you have to be quite firm.

basically I can only do 2 shifts a week. There is a full time position available. Another person can do 2/3 days a week so hes trying to fill this position with the two of us.
Pushing it big time . .

Greenmachine

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That must be a position that they're finding it very hard to fill. I'm surprised that they're pressuring you, vs finding someone else for it. Unless you've got some very specialist skills, or they think they can't place you anywhere else.

A recruiter is basically a sales person. I've expereienced them being very useful, getting an employer to consider someone (me) who they wouldn't have otherwise. But do always have to remember who's paying them and what for. And sometimes you have to be quite firm.

Mrs OBumble were you already interviewed by the agency when you managed to get said placement. Even to get a response at the moment would be nice for me.

Greenmachine

monflat wrote: »

basically I can only do 2 shifts a week. There is a full time position available. Another person can do 2/3 days a week so hes trying to fill this position with the two of us.
Pushing it big time . .

Depending on the role you might well find it very difficult to find a position that will let come in on the ground only working 2 days as part of a job share.

monflat

Greenmachine wrote: »

Depending on the role you might well find it very difficult to find a position that will let come in on the ground only working 2 days as part of a job share.

Possibly its 24 hours a week is all I can do. . But im not settling for something that does not suit me. Just because of a pushy recruitment agent!

monflat

Just to add he told me about another potential place but he said he would not bother with that as it was " near carlow" as im familiar with the place its only 2 minutes from the ring road in kilkenny.
The place that he wants me to go to is another 20 mins further again for me in co. Kilkenny. Adding more onto my journey

Greenmachine

20 minutes isn't a whole lot. Maybe this other position is a better opportunity.

monflat

Greenmachine wrote: »

20 minutes isn't a whole lot. Maybe this other position is a better opportunity.

No but. Im drawing the line im commuting all my life and there is two positions one closer thsn the other .
With 3 children under the age of 4 it means mammy will be home before we go to bed as opposed to them not seeing me at all in one day. 20. Mins at 830 in the evening is a long time to toung children .

and 20 mins on crap country road !

Greenmachine

monflat wrote: »

No but. Im drawing the line im commuting all my life and there is two positions one closer thsn the other .
With 3 children under the age of 4 it means mammy will be home before we go to bed as opposed to them not seeing me at all in one day. 20. Mins at 830 in the evening is a long time to toung children .

and 20 mins on crap country road !

I wish you every success in finding something that makes you happy. However as someone who is unemployed much longer than I'd like to be. I would go to the moon and back for a good job opportunity.

monflat

Greenmachine wrote: »

I wish you every success in finding something that makes you happy. However as someone who is unemployed much longer than I'd like to be. I would go to the moon and back for a good job opportunity.

Sorry to hear that but maybe your field of experience is different to mine. .and maybe your family suitation is different to mine .

Im not settling for something just to keep a recruitment agent happy.
But whi says that the job. Is a good opportunity? It seems to suit agent more than me.

Nody

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