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Stove backdraught.

  • 15-01-2015 3:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭


    Got a stove installed by a builder in an extension last April and didn't use it till Nov due to the very good weather last year. We installed one in the main fireplace years ago and have had no problems with it.

    Problem is that we have a backdraught problem. We can light it with kindling to get a good up draught and then add the logs and we get a small bit but it's manageable, however It became really obvious last night with the storm. The smoke was pouring into the room. So much so that I had to remove the majority of fuel and leave it go out itself.

    The top is about 16 inches above the lowest tile and it has a witches hat on top which I thought would be enough. Have been looking online for a solution which seems to be a flue top to reduce the backdraught. Would a H cowl work better? Has anyone any ideas or had the same experience?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Got a stove installed by a builder in an extension last April and didn't use it till Nov due to the very good weather last year. We installed one in the main fireplace years ago and have had no problems with it.

    Problem is that we have a backdraught problem. We can light it with kindling to get a good up draught and then add the logs and we get a small bit but it's manageable, however It became really obvious last night with the storm. The smoke was pouring into the room. So much so that I had to remove the majority of fuel and leave it go out itself.

    The top is about 16 inches above the lowest tile and it has a witches hat on top which I thought would be enough. Have been looking online for a solution which seems to be a flue top to reduce the backdraught. Would a H cowl work better? Has anyone any ideas or had the same experience?

    What way is the flue done.
    Is the flue coming off the top or back of stove.
    What way does it come out through the wall
    Is it a single or two storey house.
    Where does the flue terminate
    What size is flue
    These are the questions that need to be answered.
    Pictures speak better than words if you can post a few pics it will help
    Generally the flue should terminate above the ridge and be a min of 5.5 mtrs high


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,155 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    ... and
    what height is extension relative to house.


    have a look at Part J in the Tech guidance docs in environ dot ie

    H cowl not the best choice in my view
    have a look at topcap dot ie

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Rougebladez


    Top flue. 1.5m to 90 deg wall exit. Another90 deg to vertical outside. 2m to 45deg. Another1m to another 45deg to vertical and finishes about 16 inch above lowest tile on extension.

    I'll try and post a pic on Sat.
    The top cap site was the one I was looking at Calahonda.

    Ext is about 1 to 1.5m lower that main apex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,155 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Read Part J re bends,
    How do u clean it?

    Topcap dont recommend H for downdraught

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Rougebladez


    It has access at the 90deg on outside. I'll have to get a flexisweep to get past the 45s.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    It has access at the 90deg on outside. I'll have to get a flexisweep to get past the 45s.

    90deg bends are not permitted on solid fuel and no horizontal pipe longer than 150mm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Rougebladez


    The top cap recommends the anti down draught cowl but then it says "The H Cowl is the ultimate protection for downdraght and blow backs."

    Wish they'd make up their minds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    The top cap recommends the anti down draught cowl but then it says "The H Cowl is the ultimate protection for downdraght and blow backs."

    Wish they'd make up their minds.

    The h cowl is the best there is but it is also the one that's going to kill you first.
    That's because you can't sweep a h cowl without removing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 JCCA


    Hello, we live in a bungalow, (small housing estate) 22 years old with one fireplace (no back boiler) in the living room, with consistent problems with downdraft of smoke billowing into the living room if the wind is blowing the wrong direction. There is no air vent in the room however we have tried having a large window open to try to prevent the downdraft issue, to no avail. We have been told by a reputable chimney sweep that our chimney is too short!! We have been recommended by a couple of different sources to fit an oh cowl, a fire door, inset stove, combination of cowl and door etc. Would welcome any advice please.


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