How not to react to being stopped by the police.

Zambia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcgh5Gurr8U

catallus

Maybe he saw the cameraman and decided to act up for it

It has to be staged!?

twowheelsonly

But he lives there!!!

john the one

But how else do you make the po-lice see sense when you're in the wrong??

Bongalongherb

They wouldn't get away that easily in Ireland. He would have been taken off the road and charged for breach of the peace/broken back-light/threatening and abusive behaviour/ A danger to other road-users.

they seemed like they were on drugs or something else as well. That police officer should have given the driver a drug test as well. All over a tail-light .

Can we find anything else to do that idiot for ?.

K.Flyer

Soft Cops.
Anywhere else in the world and he would have been arrested.

Zambia

Not staged at all I know the bloke who works on that show and its all real.

Essentially the driver has committed two offences.

• Drive defective vehicle
• Use insulting language in the presence of bystanders.

Both offences are punishable by infringement notice.

There is no offence for breach of the peace in Victoria. But a myriad of lesser offences that specify what you did exactly.

Zambia

K.Flyer wrote: »

Soft Cops.
Anywhere else in the world and he would have been arrested.

Why would you arrest him? What is the piont?

Mellor

Should have RBT'd him. And, druged tested too imo.

Bongalongherb wrote: »

They wouldn't get away that easily in Ireland. He would have been taken off the road and charged for breach of the peace/broken back-light/threatening and abusive behaviour/ A danger to other road-users.

He got on-the-spot fixed fines for both of those. $244 for the language, didn't catch the other one.
It's really really not worth dragging him in front of a judge for a similar charge, wastes time and money for a similar result.

john the one

Passenger had all the symptoms of a crack whore

Zambia

Mellor wrote: »

Should have RBT'd him. And, druged tested too imo.

RBT or PBT probably did happen of camera, there were two coppers while one is writing the ticket the other handles that.

If it was negative it makes for crappy tv and hence would not get shown.

K.Flyer

Zambia wrote: »

Why would you arrest him? What is the piont?

If nothing more than to let him stew in a cell until he realises what sort of a d!@khead he is.

Bongalongherb

Zambia wrote: »

Why would you arrest him? What is the piont?

Arresting him till he calms down might be a good idea, he is unstable, and who wants an unstable person driving on the road putting other road users at risk ?.

Drug-test the idiot as well as alcohol tests.

Zambia

K.Flyer wrote: »

If nothing more than to let him stew in a cell until he realises what sort of a d!@khead he is.

As Mellor said mate, there is no point.

It would take the cop car of the road
It would use up a cell space
It would use up resources in the holding station.
It would require a brief of evidence to be prepared using up more police time.

Not to mention the all important fact it would be a false arrest, as the offences he has committed are not arrest offences.

Chances are he wont pay the tickets and incur further penalty from the Sheriff (state collection officers).

Should he fail to pay those he could have his car registration suspended. His drivers licence suspended, his car clamped and even in the end game a warrant for his imprisonment.

He may yet see a cell for these offences.

Zambia

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Arresting him till he calms down might be a good idea, he is unstable, and who wants an unstable person driving on the road putting other road users at risk ?.

Drug-test the idiot as well as alcohol tests.

That is very normal behavior for a bogan.

Bongalongherb

Zambia wrote: »

As Mellor said mate, there is no point.

It would take the cop car of the road
It would use up a cell space
It would use up resources in the holding station.
It would require a brief of evidence to be prepared using up more police time.

Not to mention the all important fact it would be a false arrest, as the offences he has committed are not arrest offences.

Chances are he wont pay the tickets and incur further penalty from the Sheriff (state collection officers).

Should he fail to pay those he could have his car registration suspended. His drivers licence suspended, his car clamped and even in the end game a warrant for his imprisonment.

He may yet see a cell for these offences.

Well in that case the officer should be allowed to stun him at least once for being an idiot with a stun-gun in a safe area on the green away from the road, and then ask said idiot is he going to cooperate.

If said idiot does not calm down the officer will be allowed one more stun. Then you will have a coherent Sheila abiding by the rules of the road and I'm sure this Sheila will slowly enter his vehicle weakly and move on without any-more hassle.



In Tasmania, Australia there are 2 breeds of bogans, theres the typical male "aussie" style bogan: who wears "wife basher" shirts (singlet tops) with many torn holes, tight stone wash jeans or some other pants, usually either wearing one or tied around the waist or slung over there shoulder a flanelette (flannie) shirt or holden/ford tops, and a pair of old blundstone boots (blunnies) and usually drives and old Holden Commodore or Ford Falcon. And swear the faces off, usually every second word is f**k. And are commonly seen with a can of VB in there hand.

Then theres the 2nd type usually teens who are seen decked out in dada, wutang, fox racing, eminem plastic crap, and the baggy wutang, fubu, emineme brand etc jeans and usually topped off with a cap of some kind, thinking that they're so damn cool but they're not.

The female version is jeans that are so tight like you would not believe, have their hair pulled back and slicked down with a whole tub of gel except for 2 front bits which are pulled out and are the same length as the rest of their hair (commonly called "bogan bits") and wear dada, wutang, fubu, fox racing etc, jumpers 10 times too big for them and wear whole stick of eye liner on each eye and way too much foundation and are seen pushing prams around followed by a colony of young children (all to differnt fathers)

My god there is so many bogans around Hobart! It's like Bogan Central or something!
or
Nah, not going there to many scary bogans around!

Ah I see.

catallus

Bogan

Word of the week.

Nutty Aussies.

Mellor

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogan&defid=734021

K.Flyer

Mellor wrote: »

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogan&defid=734021

Explains a lot, never heard the term "Bogan" before now.
Obviously the cops were used to this type of behaviour and knew what to expect.

Little CuChulainn

Zambia wrote: »

Why would you arrest him? What is the piont?

To stop him breaking the law. Seemed extremely lax. Here's one from the other side of the scale.

long range shooter

K.Flyer wrote: »

Soft Cops.
Anywhere else in the world and he would have been arrested.

In the US they would have shot him

sjb25

Zambia wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcgh5Gurr8U

Cop was a full blown legend just sit there let him rant on now here is your extra fine for you rant lol

source

Watching that after about 20 seconds my reaction was; lift the fùcker!

But different laws results in different methods. Like Zambia said, no power of arrest in that situation in Victoria, but there is one here.

I would still advocate lifting him for it, while it might have been a waste of a judges time (few minutes) it's now going to be a considerably larger waste of a sheriff's time trying to track him down to pay the fine.

Also it puts the message across that you cannot act like that in your interactions with the police. If he knew he was going into a cell every time he acts like that, it might change how he acts when dealing with the police.

Then again he's probably just an asshole.

sjb25

source wrote: »

Watching that after about 20 seconds my reaction was; lift the fùcker!

But different laws results in different methods. Like Zambia said, no power of arrest in that situation in Victoria, but there is one here.

I would still advocate lifting him for it, while it might have been a waste of a judges time (few minutes) it's now going to be a considerably larger waste of a sheriff's time trying to track him down to pay the fine.

Also it puts the message across that you cannot act like that in your interactions with the police. If he knew he was going into a cell every time he acts like that, it might change how he acts when dealing with the police.

Then again he's probably just an asshole.

I'd say the last line there is the jist of the hole thing

rosser44

I'm sure his actions will have been noted by the officers involved. If he behaves like that he'll come to their attention at some point in the future for something more than a slap on the wrist offence.

As said above it'd be a waste of the officers time to take him in but he's sure to get done in the future. Crims gonna crim.....

shuffle65

Mad! What an idiot

Mellor

source wrote: »

I would still advocate lifting him for it, while it might have been a waste of a judges time (few minutes) it's now going to be a considerably larger waste of a sheriff's time trying to track him down to pay the fine.

It's not just the judge's time. The clerks, baliff, the cops takes a half day off work, processing at the station. It all adds up.
All up there's a few hours work for a few people. The offence is still minor, probably proves low income, so they only get maybe $250 off him in court.

An on the spot fine costs little, and returns the same. The sherrifs office don't send Walker Texas Ranger out to track him down, then issue a letter. If he ignore and his license is suspended, his plate flagged. Eventually he'll be stopped again, with a warrant for his arrest this time. So now its worth dragging him front of a judge for a serious charge.

That approach is much more time/cost effective. He had already broken the law, lifting him doesn't change that.

Little CuChulainn

Mellor wrote: »

It's not just the judge's time. The clerks, baliff, the cops takes a half day off work, processing at the station. It all adds up.
All up there's a few hours work for a few people. The offence is still minor, probably proves low income, so they only get maybe $250 off him in court.

An on the spot fine costs little, and returns the same. The sherrifs office don't send Walker Texas Ranger out to track him down, then issue a letter. If he ignore and his license is suspended, his plate flagged. Eventually he'll be stopped again, with a warrant for his arrest this time. So now its worth dragging him front of a judge for a serious charge.

That approach is much more time/cost effective. He had already broken the law, lifting him doesn't change that.

But it does, it stops him continuing to break it. The idea of public order laws are to protect the public from harmful behaviour. If his behaviour falls under such an act it stands to reason that it should be stopped. Do you let someone keep driving with no insurance and issue them a ticket to follow it up?

And I'm not sure why the charge has suddenly become more serious when you drag him before the judge after failing to pay the fine. I would consider his failure to pay to be a less serious charge than his behaviour.