Salmonella Vaccination - thoughts?

WexTK

Hi all,
had one or two calf deaths due apparently to salmonella last year.... I mean I've always held the mantra "where there's livestock, there's dead stock" and my herd is already being vaccinated for BVD and Lepto on an annual basis so I'm not rushing to look for another vaccine to administer..... however in saying that I'd welcome opinions of others on the subject of salmonella vaccination to prevent calf death.... once you start this vaccination malarkey you must continue indefinitely afterall:rolleyes:

orm0nd

the price of 2 calves would buy a lot of vaccine,

decide for yourself after that

whelan2

WexTK wrote: »

Hi all,
had one or two calf deaths due apparently to salmonella last year.... I mean I've always held the mantra "where there's livestock, there's dead stock" and my herd is already being vaccinated for BVD and Lepto on an annual basis so I'm not rushing to look for another vaccine to administer..... however in saying that I'd welcome opinions of others on the subject of salmonella vaccination to prevent calf death.... once you start this vaccination malarkey you must continue indefinitely afterall:rolleyes:

if the lab results came back as salmonella i would be vaccinating, if they didnt i wouldnt

mahoney_j

WexTK wrote: »

Hi all,
had one or two calf deaths due apparently to salmonella last year.... I mean I've always held the mantra "where there's livestock, there's dead stock" and my herd is already being vaccinated for BVD and Lepto on an annual basis so I'm not rushing to look for another vaccine to administer..... however in saying that I'd welcome opinions of others on the subject of salmonella vaccination to prevent calf death.... once you start this vaccination malarkey you must continue indefinitely afterall:rolleyes:

My vets advice if u only vaccinate for one vaccinate for bvd and if another definetly salmonella.and once u start don't stop u can control stock inside your own boundaries to a point but u can't control your neighbours or wildlife .

Greengrass1

After seeing and talking to farmers who lost animals with salmonella this yrs its something I hope to start vaccinating for this yr.
Its really up to yourself if you think its woth it or not but I couldn't hack it if a dozen cows aborted on me

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

After seeing and talking to farmers who lost animals with salmonella this yrs its something I hope to start vaccinating for this yr.
Its really up to yourself if you think its woth it or not but I couldn't hack it if a dozen cows aborted on me

No question as to wether it's worth it or not,it is .seen at first hand here a few years back and on a good few places before Xmas the devastation it brings .comming out in morning and seeing aborted foetus at bottom of scrapper track or back of cubicles is soul destroying ,dead calf and in all likelihood a good cow or heifer culled.vaccine is dear but if hit with a bad outbreak vaccine becomes very cheap

Brown Podzol

WexTK wrote: »

Hi all,
had one or two calf deaths due apparently to salmonella last year.... I mean I've always held the mantra "where there's livestock, there's dead stock" and my herd is already being vaccinated for BVD and Lepto on an annual basis so I'm not rushing to look for another vaccine to administer..... however in saying that I'd welcome opinions of others on the subject of salmonella vaccination to prevent calf death.... once you start this vaccination malarkey you must continue indefinitely afterall:rolleyes:

Vaccinating here with donkeys years. The reason I started was to prevent salmonella scour in calves through antibodies in the beastings. You don't want to see salmonella scour in calves.

C4d78

On the Bovivac vaccine. I've been using this for years on maiden heifers*2shots and booster for cows every year.
At a recent herd health meeting the vet recommended the maidens need earlier cover so the best bet was to do them as calves 2 shots & then booster for heifers & cows every yr.
Is there a need for this in people's opinions. Or what are most people doing 2shots to maidens and booster every year?
Anybody doing yearlings??

Deepsouthwest

C4d78 wrote: »

On the Bovivac vaccine. I've been using this for years on maiden heifers*2shots and booster for cows every year.
At a recent herd health meeting the vet recommended the maidens need earlier cover so the best bet was to do them as calves 2 shots & then booster for heifers & cows every yr.
Is there a need for this in people's opinions. Or what are most people doing 2shots to maidens and booster every year?
Anybody doing yearlings??

Weanlings under 6 mths only need two shots of 2.5cc each time, instead of adult/Incalf heifers needing two shots of of 5cc each. Calves is the cheapest time to do them.
Also salmonella is one of the few vaccines that u can stop using whenever u want. However most people that start it continue indefinitely

Milked out

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Weanlings under 6 mths only need two shots of 2.5cc each time, instead of adult/Incalf heifers needing two shots of of 5cc each. Calves is the cheapest time to do them.
Also salmonella is one of the few vaccines that u can stop using whenever u want. However most people that start it continue indefinitely

What do u mean by one of the few vaccines u can stop using whenever u want dsw

C4d78

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Weanlings under 6 mths only need two shots of 2.5cc each time, instead of adult/Incalf heifers needing two shots of of 5cc each. Calves is the cheapest time to do them.
Also salmonella is one of the few vaccines that u can stop using whenever u want. However most people that start it continue indefinitely

Is there a need to do them at this age thou? Any advantage?

mahoney_j

C4d78 wrote: »

Is there a need to do them at this age thou? Any advantage?

Cost for a start adult animal as dsw rightly points out need 2 5 cc shots at 5.90 each = 11.80 versus 2 * 2.5 cc shots at 5.90 as a calf .then just one 5 cc booster yearly if u start vaccinating don't stop ,heifers cows infected with salmonella start aborting from September on and that's her done for unless u want to milk her around to following season if in winter milk .

C4d78

mahoney_j wrote: »

Cost for a start adult animal as dsw rightly points out need 2 5 cc shots at 5.90 each = 11.80 versus 2 * 2.5 cc shots at 5.90 as a calf .then just one 5 cc booster yearly if u start vaccinating don't stop ,heifers cows infected with salmonella start aborting from September on and that's her done for unless u want to milk her around to following season if in winter milk .

It works out at exactly same price either way. 2* 2.5 & then booster of 5cc
Or
2*5cc
Just wondering is there at advantage to be gained by getting them done at 6 months. If they're vaccinated in calf in August they'll be covered by September danger period.
Have always been doing heifers & cows

Deepsouthwest

C4d78 wrote: »

It works out at exactly same price either way. 2* 2.5 & then booster of 5cc
Or
2*5cc
Just wondering is there at advantage to be gained by getting them done at 6 months. If they're vaccinated in calf in August they'll be covered by September danger period.
Have always been doing heifers & cows

Of course it can be argued that it's unnecessary, but it's another form of insurance. If it costs the same, then why not do it? October/November(month 5-7) is the most common time for, but an outbreak can happen anytime.

greysides

The earlier they are vaccinated the less likely they are to become carriers and spread it themselves.