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Irish Citzenship

  • 14-01-2015 6:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Phoenix wrote: »
    My girlfriends fathers grand father was born in Ireland can he get irish citizenship?
    Is he alive? If so, yes. He is already an Irish citizen.
    and can she become an irish citizen too if he qualifies?
    Yes. But she is not yet a citizen. It's straightforward enough for her too, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Phoenix wrote: »
    Hes passed on so I take it as a no?
    He was a citizen from birth, so he was a citizen when your girlfriend was born, so she can still qualify, even though he's dead.

    However, if your girlfriend presently has any children, they are not automatically eligible for citizenship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Phoenix wrote: »
    Her father was a citizen from birth?
    Yes. I should have said her father was a citizen when she was born. Even if her grandfather was dead before your girlfriend was born, it would make no difference to her qualification.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    It's the OP's girlfriend's great-grandfather who was born in Ireland. By that reckoning, the girlfriend's father can apply for Irish citizenship but is not automatically an Irish citizen from birth.
    Phoenix wrote: »
    My girlfriends fathers grand father was born in Ireland can he get irish citizenship?

    By virtue of being the grandchild of Irish citizens, he can apply for Irish citizenship.
    Phoenix wrote: »
    and can she become an irish citizen too if he qualifies?

    The answer appears to be 'no, her father would have had to apply for Irish citizenship before she was born.

    The following is an extract from citizensinformation.ie, I have emboldened text which was bold on that website. You need to read this from the perspective of the girlfriend's father.....

    Citizenship through descent from Irish grandparents

    If one of your grandparents is an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland, but none of your parents was born in Ireland, you may become an Irish citizen. You will need to have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register.

    If you are entitled to register, your Irish citizenship is effective from the date of registration. The Irish citizenship of successive generations may be maintained in this way by each generation ensuring their registration in the Foreign Births Register before the birth of the next generation.

    Since 1 July 1986, a person registered in the Foreign Births Entry Book after 1986 is deemed to be an Irish citizen only from the date of his/her entry in the Register and not from the date of birth. This means that children born to that person before his/her date of entry in the Register are not entitled to citizenship.


    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    coylemj wrote: »
    It's the OP's girlfriend's great-grandfather who was born in Ireland.
    whoops, quite the blunder. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Sorry OP; as Coylemj indicated, the girlfriend's father did not become a citizen before the girlfriend was born, so the cord is irreparably severed.

    Sorry if I got your hopes up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    She can still apply on the basis of Irish associations, but it's probably unlikely to be granted. Definitely won't be granted if she's not even resident in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Was she registered with the FBR at the time of her birth? If yes, then she can apply. If not, then no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Was she registered with the FBR at the time of her birth? If yes, then she can apply. If not, then no.

    It's her father who would have to have been registered in the FBR at the time of her birth and I think it's reasonable to suppose that if he was, she would be aware of it.


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