Can't spend a penny in the station

roundymac

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/toilets-in-smaller-train-stations-face-closure-306825.html
This is the latest cash saving idea from I/E. It's also another fall in customer service IMO.

n97 mini

"An attack on rural Ireland". God give me strength. One of the busiest stations in the country (Tara Street, Dublin) doesn't have toilets, along with virtually all of the rest of the Dublin network.

nokia69

n97 mini wrote: »

"An attack on rural Ireland". God give me strength. One of the busiest stations in the country (Tara Street, Dublin) doesn't have toilets, along with virtually all of the rest of the Dublin network.

if you are in tara street station you are in the centre of Dublin and it easy enough to find a toilet

The J Stands for Jay

nokia69 wrote: »

if you are in tara street station you are in the centre of Dublin and it easy enough to find a toilet

You've obviously never been in Dublin.

whisky_galore

nokia69 wrote: »

if you are in tara street station you are in the centre of Dublin and it easy enough to find a toilet

An 'unofficial' toilet perhaps?

nokia69

McGaggs wrote: »

You've obviously never been in Dublin.

I'm there a few times every week

n97 mini

Even the pub next door has a sign in the window "Toilets are for customer use only"

SteM

nokia69 wrote: »

if you are in tara street station you are in the centre of Dublin and it easy enough to find a toilet

The Liffey?

Mint Sauce

Can only comment on Pearse, Connolly, and Hueston, in fairness, the toilets at Pearse were in the platform side, but anytime I have been there I have been let use, even if not traveling.

n97 mini wrote: »

Even the pub next door has a sign in the window "Toilets are for customer use only"

I have never been stopped from using a toilet in any pub or takeaway, I just walk in, use, and say nothing.

end of the road

n97 mini wrote: »

"An attack on rural Ireland". God give me strength. One of the busiest stations in the country (Tara Street, Dublin) doesn't have toilets, along with virtually all of the rest of the Dublin network.

well, if making out it is an attack on rural ireland makes IE have a little think, then it should be stated at every opportunity.

end of the road

roundymac wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/toilets-in-smaller-train-stations-face-closure-306825.html
This is the latest cash saving idea from I/E. It's also another fall in customer service IMO.

the waiting rooms will probably be next. then.

Hilly Bill

Its simple, use the jax before you leave the house and if must use the one on the train.

end of the road

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Its simple, use the jax before you leave the house and if must use the one on the train.

or our toilet in our station. the station that we all effectively own

n97 mini

If it brings cost savings that can be spent better elsewhere, e.g. more services, then it should be implemented.

Waiting rooms and toilets hark back to the days when you could actually be waiting for a period of time in the station. In modern times train timetables are reliable and you shouldn't need to be in the station more than 10 mins before your train.

Waiting rooms and toilets should be confined to stations where customers might actually have to wait for a connecting train, like in Limerick Junction, Mallow, Portarlington etc.

Banjoxed

n97 mini wrote: »

"An attack on rural Ireland". God give me strength. One of the busiest stations in the country (Tara Street, Dublin) doesn't have toilets, along with virtually all of the rest of the Dublin network.

You might not like it, and I might disagree with the rhetoric, but that is how a hell of a lot of voters think out in the sticks.

whisky_galore

Banjoxed wrote: »

You might not like it, and I might disagree with the rhetoric, but that is how a hell of a lot of voters think out in the sticks.

A lot of the free travel folks, may not be able to hold it in as well as you or me.
And they actually bother to go out and vote.

end of the road

n97 mini wrote: »

If it brings cost savings that can be spent better elsewhere, e.g. more services, then it should be implemented.

yeah, shutting down a few jacks is going to make major cost savings and bring more services. yeah, right. it will be pissed down the drain instead.

n97 mini wrote: »

Waiting rooms and toilets hark back to the days when you could actually be waiting for a period of time in the station.

rubbish. they are a warm place to stand in out of the cold and as there is nothing in them apart from the booking office in a couple of places there is little cost to having them open. doubtful its enough to warrent them being shut, and not enough to save for more services.

n97 mini wrote: »

In modern times train timetables are reliable and you shouldn't need to be in the station more than 10 mins before your train.

in modern times 10 minutes is still 10 minutes. you still need somewhere warm to go while being there. you might expect people to freze instead, but no thanks, i won't be left freezing for you

n97 mini wrote: »

Waiting rooms and toilets should be confined to stations where customers might actually have to wait for a connecting train, like in Limerick Junction, Mallow, Portarlington etc.

waiting rooms and toilets should be confined to the stations where they are currently. which is more or less the stations in the towns

n97 mini

end of the road wrote: »

waiting rooms and toilets should be confined to the stations where they are currently. which is more or less the stations in the towns

Rubbish. The likes of Woodlawn have toilets which probably don't get used more than once a year but someone has to be available to maintain it.

If some stations have toilets and heating waiting rooms, it's only fair that all stations should have toilets and heating waiting rooms.

end of the road

n97 mini wrote: »

Rubbish. The likes of Woodlawn have toilets which probably don't get used more than once a year but someone has to be available to maintain it.

as if you or i would know how many times Woodlawns toilets get used. are you standing there and watching or something? of course if it really bothers you there is plenty of ways to start a campain or petition to close them. change.org is one

n97 mini wrote: »

If some stations have toilets and heating waiting rooms, it's only fair that all stations should have toilets and heating waiting rooms.

yes. however just because some have and others don't, doesn't mean all shouldn't. sometimes in life there is the haves, and the have nots.

n97 mini

Despite what you would like little or unused used rail infrastructure is going to be binned, often rightly so. As said the money is better being spent where it'll benefit more people.

end of the road

n97 mini wrote: »

Despite what you would like rail infrastructure is going to be binned

fixed. yeah, thats CIE for you isn't it.

n97 mini wrote: »

often rightly so.

even though it means less flexibility? lets face it, IE are happy to bin whatever just to satisfy the minister even though down the line it will probably cause problems. and i'm not talking about jacks. i can't believe you think that anything supposibly saved from binning infrastructure which you think rightly so is going to be spent on something useful. i expected better from you

n97 mini wrote: »

As said the money is better being spent where it'll benefit more people.

you honestly think the money supposibly saved will be "spent where it'll benefit more people" or even spent at all. yeah, right. once you get your way of infrastructure being binned and "rightly so" the money is gone. gone. kiss goodby to the money. again, you know all this

Hilly Bill

end of the road wrote: »

or our toilet in our station. the station that we all effectively own

You dont own the station.

MGWR

Banjoxed wrote: »

You might not like it, and I might disagree with the rhetoric, but that is how a hell of a lot of voters think out in the sticks.

People confusing voters for councillors again.

Cllr Ian Doyle discovered the toilet at his town’s station at Charleville in North Cork had been at risk.

“It’s a mile outside of the town. A lot of rural stations are isolated and this is another attack on rural Ireland, What are people to do?,” he said.

The company has since decided not to shut the toilet as it’s close to a disability centre whose clients use the station on a regular basis.

"At risk" of so-called "antisocial behaviour" that would not exist if law enforcement were strengthened a bit.

monument

whisky_galore wrote: »

A lot of the free travel folks, may not be able to hold it in as well as you or me.
And they actually bother to go out and vote.

Cut that out!

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whisky_galore

monument wrote: »

Cut that out!

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